JJ here -Attention: MEXICO LAB UPDATE

[Gone1]

OK
As of today my supplier called and said ALL anabolic labs are CLOSED and all are being investigated.
The supply of anabolics in Mexico is going FAST. What was made when the labs closed is all that will be able to be sold till they re-open.
Here is the deal... you can still get accessories items without any problems... clomid, clenbuterol, adipex-ambien-nubain - some brands of test aratest, ect.. but products for the main labs are shut down.
He says he is almost SURE they will reopen BUT prices are going to go way up in the future and they wont reopen until they get through the legal bullshit this SHIT EATING COUNTRY (Our DEA) has caused them. (Thanks George - fucking asshole)
He also said that he personally talked to the distributors of 2 NEW labs that are going to open while the others are under investigation.
These labs will distribute ONLY to Mexican pharmas.... no advertising into the US because thats what got the others shut down.
So, basically the game is going back underground like it used to be in the good ol days.

Now.. for those of my "friends" that have lawn product orders with me... PLEASE be patient... this is out of my control. I will fill what orders i can but when the supply runs out... its going to be a waiting game.
But ... rest assured - the game will go on!

 

[GENE]

thanks for the info JJ.
take care.

 

[llbean06]

The labs will not reopen selling the same steroids. SAGAR is taking away their registration numbers because all of the labs involved misrepresented their steroids as vet/animal medicine to get approval. Mex Gov't now realizes what was going on and has shut them down. No new "legit" labs will be opening in the future as SAGAR will no longer allow them to import bulk material legally. QV, AP, DK, PP will all shut down, permanently. Tornel/Brovel will continue to manufacture "legit" vet medicines. Loeffler was shutting down their vet product line prior to the US indictment so they will cease to exist as well. All I can say is I told u so.

 

[Ashop]

Thanks for update.

 

[pumpit]

hey JJ, long time, told you i would be back

Hey JJ I am back, your old bud benchthis.....sorry for the long absence but I think you understand....what the f##k is up with mexico. god damn dea. I will be shooting you an email soon....you still at the same address.......I do not have any of my old "files" please send me a pm regarding your address.....oh yea,. just getting started for this years outing to benefit subs family...........lot of work but worth it....you take care bro. peace

 

[Armageddon]

The labs will not reopen selling the same steroids. SAGAR is taking away their registration numbers because all of the labs involved misrepresented their steroids as vet/animal medicine to get approval. Mex Gov't now realizes what was going on and has shut them down. No new "legit" labs will be opening in the future as SAGAR will no longer allow them to import bulk material legally. QV, AP, DK, PP will all shut down, permanently. Tornel/Brovel will continue to manufacture "legit" vet medicines. Loeffler was shutting down their vet product line prior to the US indictment so they will cease to exist as well. All I can say is I told u so.

Seems like yor awfully smug like your glad this happend!

 

[Armageddon]

How do you gigure that they wont be allowed to import any powders. There going to make steroids illegal in mexico, doubt it. How do you know what the laws will entail down there?

 

[Gone1]

The labs will not reopen selling the same steroids. SAGAR is taking away their registration numbers because all of the labs involved misrepresented their steroids as vet/animal medicine to get approval. Mex Gov't now realizes what was going on and has shut them down. No new "legit" labs will be opening in the future as SAGAR will no longer allow them to import bulk material legally. QV, AP, DK, PP will all shut down, permanently. Tornel/Brovel will continue to manufacture "legit" vet medicines. Loeffler was shutting down their vet product line prior to the US indictment so they will cease to exist as well. All I can say is I told u so.

Mr Bean
There have and ALWAYS will be a way to secure the demand and supply. If you honestly think that STEROID sells in Meixco are over and done with then you need to find a reality that fits the world YOU live in.
As long as there is money to be made... there will ALWAYS be steroids coming from Mexico.
I know for a FACT that they are in the process of opening more labs and selling by legal ways to insure there safety.
Anabolics are also medication... you cant stop a country from producing MEDICATION. Just like when TTokkyo went down... Many other labs popped up to replace them. The process is now happening again with other companies.
To make it legal with US DICK HEAD atthorities all they have to do is sell strictly to MEXICAN pharmacias. Where the products go from there is just a cat and mouse game.
The stupid greedy owners of the Qv labs tried to by pass the middle men and sell straight into american... thats a no no. They got caught.
This is just a set back in sells and production.... the game will keep on rollin... George might be A SUPER cock sucker but he cant stop me or YOU from growing... PERIOD!

 

[llbean06]

How do you gigure that they wont be allowed to import any powders. There going to make steroids illegal in mexico, doubt it. How do you know what the laws will entail down there?

Never said steroids would be illegal in mexico. Human-grade anabolics (ie sostenon preloads, primoteston, sten, etc) will still be available in MX. US indictments had nothing to do with Organon or Schering. But the high-dosed, multi ester, & oral veterinary steroids are a thing of the past (as far as MX is concerned). Believe me, Mexico (SAGAR-PGR) is now well aware that 10mg denkall methandrostenolone capsules & 400mg/ml testosterone compounds have no legitimate use in veterinary medicine and the companies making these steroids lied to get them approved for vet use. A best case scenario is that somewhere down the road the mex vet market will return to how it was pre- 1994-95 (before Denkall/Rod Sylvia started exporting Troy Labs to MX) ie 50mg/ml testosterones, nandrolones & boldenones manufactured by 1 or 2 veterinary companies.

 

[llbean06]

Yes you are right, there will now be a proliferation of UG ie UNDERGROUND labs like Powerline, Eurobolix & Bajavet popping up in TJ, Ensenada, Nuevo Laredo, etc, to pick up where the indicted labs left off. But don't kid yourself, these are UNDERGROUND labs (not legitimate ISO certified Vet Labs) and therefore the quality/sterility of the gear they make will always be suspect (especially coming out of Mexico) & the quantities they'll be distributing will be extremely limited. Trust me, they won't last, the people behind these UGL's aren't that smart.

 

[KillerStack]

Believe me, Mexico (SAGAR-PGR) is now well aware that 10mg denkall methandrostenolone capsules & 400mg/ml testosterone compounds have no legitimate use in veterinary medicine and the companies making these steroids lied to get them approved for vet use.

Do you really think they didn't know before this? Like it was some sort of secret LOL

 

[gingerbreadman]

JJ and Bean

LLBean I tend to agree with JJ, Mexico is Mexico corruption is corruption, if there is money to be made the little beaners down there will figure out a way.
SAGAR if anyone does not know is the agency that says you can import "blah" into Mexico and you basically have to have a permit from them to bring anything in.
As we know payoffs go a long way in Mexico it's a way of life so although the labs may be forced to shut down it's a temporary thing and they will be operational soon enough. I don't know if the "legitimate ISO certified Vet Labs" every really meant a whole lot as a lot of trash comes from Mexico. The labs I have been to have always been a less than clean environment not to scare anyone, it's good enough to use.
Anyway don't panic it'll be fine it's a pacifying shut down to a degree but the biz is not going anywhere.

Just my take.

 

[Armageddon]

Yes you are right, there will now be a proliferation of UG ie UNDERGROUND labs like Powerline, Eurobolix & Bajavet popping up in TJ, Ensenada, Nuevo Laredo, etc, to pick up where the indicted labs left off. But don't kid yourself, these are UNDERGROUND labs (not legitimate ISO certified Vet Labs) and therefore the quality/sterility of the gear they make will always be suspect (especially coming out of Mexico) & the quantities they'll be distributing will be extremely limited. Trust me, they won't last, the people behind these UGL's aren't that smart.

What makes you think that the people running mexican companies are any smarter than those running underground labs. That's ignorance shinning through on your part. If anything they have to be smarter to play the game not by the "rules" so to speak. I think some underground labs are better than most mex companies. I've never seen the facilities in mexico, have you? Can you tell us in detail how clean they are and how everything works? The knowledge that you have of what goes on over there baffles me. Are you a cop trying to detour people from doing what they like?

 

[Gone1]

LLBean I tend to agree with JJ, Mexico is Mexico corruption is corruption, if there is money to be made the little beaners down there will figure out a way.
SAGAR if anyone does not know is the agency that says you can import "blah" into Mexico and you basically have to have a permit from them to bring anything in.
As we know payoffs go a long way in Mexico it's a way of life so although the labs may be forced to shut down it's a temporary thing and they will be operational soon enough. I don't know if the "legitimate ISO certified Vet Labs" every really meant a whole lot as a lot of trash comes from Mexico. The labs I have been to have always been a less than clean environment not to scare anyone, it's good enough to use.
Anyway don't panic it'll be fine it's a pacifying shut down to a degree but the biz is not going anywhere.

Just my take.

I agree with Gbreadman....

Here is exactly what is going to happen... mark my words.
All those companies will either PAY there way out of this ILLEGAL tampering by the FUCKED UP US DEA ..... and keep selling there products to ONLY mexican pharmacies..... where it goes from there is not there fault.
Remember... they didnt get shut down because they produced "10mg bla bla bla" - they got shut down because the greedy bastards who own the companies started selling DIRECTLY to the USA ... skipping the mexican pharmacies. Had they stayed like the good ol day when they shipped ONLY to pharmacies and vet supply companies then they would have never been charged with shit. Period.

Other labs will open... Just like Quality vet did after Ttoykko shut down (OVER THE SALE OF KETAMINE - NO OTHER REASON). These new pharmacies will produce the exact same MG and ML and products as all the others.... EXCEPT the only way you will get them is by going the old route... buying from a pharmacy instead of STRAIGHT from the lab.
They where cutting out the middle man... and they fucked there self.
I never said anything about UG labs meaning Powerline and all that other stuff thats made in bathtubs.... i meant LEGIT labs that STAY out of the limelight and let the pharms do all the dirty work....ie, Underground .

My question to llbean06 is which UG company do you own or sell for? You sure seem to be pushing that bathtub stuff pretty hard knowing the LABS are closing. (By bathtub i mean... i have SEEN UG products made IN real BATHRUBS.... there for i would remain natural before i would ever use something a dude sitting at home with a crimper and pill press makes - just my opinion ... dont take it as a flame)

BTW.... Powerline will not be popping up in TJ because its PRODUCED in the UNITED STATES and marketed as being made in Mexico - everyone knows this)

 

[Tough Old Man]

I live in Baja. This past Wed I took a friend into town to pick up some gear. One of the pharms the carries everything had none and said he is out of that business do to the U.S pressure. So we went to another and he still had everything. Said that he'll be ok thru this month =, but has no idea going into Feb. So guys things are drying up right now. I'll bet the prices of this shit hits the ceiling very shortly if it hasn't already.


Tough

 

[Gone1]

I live in Baja. This past Wed I took a friend into town to pick up some gear. One of the pharms the carries everything had none and said he is out of that business do to the U.S pressure. So we went to another and he still had everything. Said that he'll be ok thru this month =, but has no idea going into Feb. So guys things are drying up right now. I'll bet the prices of this shit hits the ceiling very shortly if it hasn't already.


Tough

Prices have already hit the ceiling. Some products have actually increased up to $9 and $10 per bottle - in one weeks time.

 

[llbean06]

Irregardless of whether you believe things will change or stay the same (in MX) one thing that you'll need to keep an eye out for is the inevitable flood of counterfeit vet gear that will hit the market within the next 6 or so months. Word out of TJ is there are 2 operations north and south of the border that are already in the process of copying QV's labels/boxes, what gets put inside the vials is anybody's guess. Remeber what happened when Ttokkyo shut down? Tons of fake TK stuff all over the place (especially the K), that was just 1 company, imagine what it will be like with 7 companies.

 

[Jerkyboy]

Hey JJ whats up brother? long time no talk.

Can I PM you sometime so we can catch up? thanks bud

 

[Gone1]

Irregardless of whether you believe things will change or stay the same (in MX) one thing that you'll need to keep an eye out for is the inevitable flood of counterfeit vet gear that will hit the market within the next 6 or so months. Word out of TJ is there are 2 operations north and south of the border that are already in the process of copying QV's labels/boxes, what gets put inside the vials is anybody's guess. Remeber what happened when Ttokkyo shut down? Tons of fake TK stuff all over the place (especially the K), that was just 1 company, imagine what it will be like with 7 companies.

Well... this i do agree with you. I already figured the fake shit would start flowing soon. How pathetic is that... our government shuts down the REAL shit "to keep us safe from the harmful effects" .... so now we get to inject fake ass piss in a bottle! Wow! Great job DEA! You are saving us ALL!

 

[Ivan]

UG labs

Well I can say this about UG labs -- After having a go with QV and Loeffler, I found BajaVet to be WAY superior to these co. just mentioned. Hey I like Euro gear myself, but BV has made me and a lot of other athletes very happy.