Shit, another realization that popped in my head- the definitions and comparisons we’re talking about are waaaaaay different and I should realize that- to me, being somewhat muscular and 15% or less BF is pretty lean and good enough , because that’s probably better than like 90%of the population. So to me as just a gymbro, that’s decent, and I look and feel better than probably 95% of people I run into daily.
But on a bodybuilding forum where true competitive bodybuilders trade info, compare where they are in prep with each other etc? That’s a whole other world of expectations and far harsher requirements and demands!
Not a huge surprise, but definitely a factor mentally for me at least. Gotta keep that frame of reference in mind.