JP "mito stack"

[traininsane11]

That’s not really full true. Listen to that podcast. James clearly said he went over 700 mg of Tren per week. He just learned from experience that it wasn’t needed it gave more negatives than positives. Same with the doses of other compounds.
Now he runs less, and that’s normal. All athletes, when they get older, cut back because they want to keep their health, especially if they want to stay in the sport for a long time.

And we can see it in his physique. He lost a lot of size compared to before, and he doesn’t have the same strength anymore. So it’s pretty obvious he’s using much less gear than he used to.

I said on a Fouad podcast, that’s not a Fouad podcast. Maybe he’s been over 200mg since then or maybe he just says whatever

I imagine he is using less now than in years gone as most do but I have also found him to be all over the place when talking about dosages that he’s used but I also still think it’s very common most will tell you the lower dosages they’ve run and shy away from mentioning times they may of pushed them

 

[specter]

I said on a Fouad podcast, that’s not a Fouad podcast. Maybe he’s been over 200mg since then or maybe he just says whatever

I imagine he is using less now than in years gone as most do but I have also found him to be all over the place when talking about dosages that he’s used but I also still think it’s very common most will tell you the lower dosages they’ve run and shy away from mentioning times they may of pushed them

Oh he was over 700mg back in the day in the begining of JP´s site, i followed Him, JP and Sandoe close back then, they where very transparent with doses..

 

[luki7788]

I said on a Fouad podcast, that’s not a Fouad podcast. Maybe he’s been over 200mg since then or maybe he just says whatever

I imagine he is using less now than in years gone as most do but I have also found him to be all over the place when talking about dosages that he’s used but I also still think it’s very common most will tell you the lower dosages they’ve run and shy away from mentioning times they may of pushed them

Ok, but I didn’t mean Fuad’s podcast, I mean in general. If in Fuad’s podcast he says something different, that’s normal. They never even remember what they said before. Truth is, if someone lies, he will always say something different, because he doesn’t remember what he said last time. But who cares? Nobody must tell every detail of what they did before. Maybe he just confused something. And many people also speak about what they do now, not what they did in the past. That’s two different things. But really, who cares? Everyone should just do what they think is right, and use as much as they feel they need for their results.

 

[Simon90]

In my opinion the forum and JP’s content in general peaked about 10 years ago the stuff on there from him and other guys was actually legit like Hollingshead/sandoe/sas etc were all super transparent and all at a time where they were pushing the envelope on getting big.

It’s interesting Hollingshead downplays gear massively now and just says random numbers when asked I remember ages back on a Fouad podcast I believe saying he’d never been over like 200mg tren EVER

But I know from a extremely solid source as he was monitoring their health all 3 of them (Hollingshead/sandoe/JP) were up in the 4g+ range for a period

Also for proppppper old content I think it’s T nation and UKM that JP used to post on like 15 years back the threads are still there buried somewhere

He has some old logs still available to read on tmuscle. Good reads tbf.

 

[kadafi2]

This is what James looks like now. He's competing in France now. (I didn't even know they had pro competitions there.)
Oh, and almost every bodybuilder lies about their doses, that's normal.

 

[pimpman]

Can’t tell if you’re referring to JP or not…but dude makes muuuch much more money than an IFBB pro.

No I wasn’t referring to JP himself. The guy has tons of money.i was talking more of the ones that take everything in the book and just look horrible like a balloon walking around so unhealthy

 

[jl9987]

I've tried inject 5 amino at 10mg a day, nothing. Oral 5 amino at 250mg a day - saw nothing.


SS31 nothing really, but I know it's a solid proven peptide more doing stuff under the surface. But therapeutic doses are CRAZY like 40mg a day.

MOTS C beneficial but don't see the need for it daily cos constantly turning on AMPK, should really me a Mon/Wed/Fri really, whereas SS31 could be daily.

Didnt notice much from GLOW/KLOW either.

 

[jl9987]

Used reta but my recent bloods show insulin, c peptide and leptin REALLY low, not sure if just reta? But then makes me thing is my pancreas working on, bit out of my realm there. Doing 1.5mg x 2 a week.

 

[Swifto]

I've tried inject 5 amino at 10mg a day, nothing. Oral 5 amino at 250mg a day - saw nothing.


SS31 nothing really, but I know it's a solid proven peptide more doing stuff under the surface. But therapeutic doses are CRAZY like 40mg a day.

MOTS C beneficial but don't see the need for it daily cos constantly turning on AMPK, should really me a Mon/Wed/Fri really, whereas SS31 could be daily.

Didnt notice much from GLOW/KLOW either.

Are you sure the quality of what you were using was very good?

 

[jl9987]

Are you sure the quality of what you were using was very good?

Yes sir, all tested by me personally through Janoshik. Even got some sent from biolongevity probs the most overpriced but tested even for heavy metals for free and same. Might be doing something under the surface maybe.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

I've tried inject 5 amino at 10mg a day, nothing. Oral 5 amino at 250mg a day - saw nothing.


SS31 nothing really, but I know it's a solid proven peptide more doing stuff under the surface. But therapeutic doses are CRAZY like 40mg a day.

MOTS C beneficial but don't see the need for it daily cos constantly turning on AMPK, should really me a Mon/Wed/Fri really, whereas SS31 could be daily.

Didnt notice much from GLOW/KLOW either.

I have never trusted 5 amino. Seems very hit or miss.

You're not supposed to feel anything with SS. Like u said, its doing the fixing under the hood of the car. I also think the daily dosages people are using is ridiculous. Lots of guys enjoy 5mg a day.

You're massively overthinking AMPKk and MOTs-C.

As someone who is running GLOW and adding the KPV myself, i feel like they arent worth the buy. Better to individually by each peptide to get to a dose you want.

 

[D2]

I have never trusted 5 amino. Seems very hit or miss.

You're not supposed to feel anything with SS. Like u said, its doing the fixing under the hood of the car. I also think the daily dosages people are using is ridiculous. Lots of guys enjoy 5mg a day.

You're massively overthinking AMPKk and MOTs-C.

As someone who is running GLOW and adding the KPV myself, i feel like they arent worth the buy. Better to individually by each peptide to get to a dose you want.

hi bro, do u feel any burning sensation when injecting GLOW stack ?

 

[TheOtherOne55]

hi bro, do u feel any burning sensation when injecting GLOW stack ?

Yep lightly. That GHKU is a mother fucker. Can’t imagine actualllly taking a higher dose individually. My lower left abs (where I normally inject sub Q) sting for like 10 mins.

 

[3BILLS]

I think it is out of control now with the research chems. Every month something new comes out. I know guys on self prescribed bp meds metaformin retatrutide slu-pp-332 mots ss 31 bam 15 blue dye etc on top of GH IGF-1 insulin 4 to 5 steroids etc. How do you know what's working and doing what? Many of these compounds have no guidelines on what meds they react with.

Brother haven't you tried all the things you've mentioned

 

[Massive G]

Brother haven't you tried all the things you've mentioned

Absolutely not.

 

[specter]

Yep lightly. That GHKU is a mother fucker. Can’t imagine actualllly taking a higher dose individually. My lower left abs (where I normally inject sub Q) sting for like 10 mins.

Yeah that shit can burn.

 

[beardedgorilla]

Yep lightly. That GHKU is a mother fucker. Can’t imagine actualllly taking a higher dose individually. My lower left abs (where I normally inject sub Q) sting for like 10 mins.

It's so bizarre, wife takes it no issues, slight sting. I get a welt that stays for 2-3+ days. Both of us are using from the same vial so I know it's not an issue with the source, but with my body. Anyone else experience this?

 

[3BILLS]

Absolutely not.

metaformin retatrutide slu-pp-332 ?

 

[Massive G]

metaformin retatrutide slu-pp-332 ?

Pretty much a mindset of a 2000 2010 decade bodybuilder. Skipped the whole peptide frag revolution too.
Never used metformin. Go to a doctor for bp meds. No DNP No primo no masteron no eq no tren in 15 years no bam 15 not sure I will try mots or ss. Honestly these compounds come out with something new every month so hard to say. Yea sloop and retatrutide but not at same time and not on anything continuously. Honestly tired of pokes. Methylene blue for a week nothing other than blue pee. Going to start tirzepatide micro with my Mk677 and subq hrt. To me mk677 is better than GH if you have the real shit. I just am getting a little fatigue and joint pain from it so a little tirzepatide may help.
I can't stand retatrutide it flattened me out like a pancake all while eating like a madman. I just march to the beat of a different drummer like my hair and normal levels of estrogen but see so many people on primo masteron anti estrogen 10 peptides etc etc. Me? Bread and butter. Test deca little injectable dbol added in and mass factory gains. Var and strol bad for the lipids drol tough on the BP etc. Pick your poison your body your choice I say. Would I look alot better on all that shit? Probably but I am flying out to the Midwest soon and don't have to worry about smuggling or mailing stuff out to take while on vacation.

 

[3BILLS]

Pretty much a mindset of a 2000 2010 decade bodybuilder. Skipped the whole peptide frag revolution too.
Never used metformin. Go to a doctor for bp meds. No DNP No primo no masteron no eq no tren in 15 years no bam 15 not sure I will try mots or ss. Honestly these compounds come out with something new every month so hard to say. Yea sloop and retatrutide but not at same time and not on anything continuously. Honestly tired of pokes. Methylene blue for a week nothing other than blue pee. Going to start tirzepatide micro with my Mk677 and subq hrt. To me mk677 is better than GH if you have the real shit. I just am getting a little fatigue and joint pain from it so a little tirzepatide may help.
I can't stand retatrutide it flattened me out like a pancake all while eating like a madman. I just march to the beat of a different drummer like my hair and normal levels of estrogen but see so many people on primo masteron anti estrogen 10 peptides etc etc. Me? Bread and butter. Test deca little injectable dbol added in and mass factory gains. Var and strol bad for the lipids drol tough on the BP etc. Pick your poison your body your choice I say. Would I look alot better on all that shit? Probably but I am flying out to the Midwest soon and don't have to worry about smuggling or mailing stuff out to take while on vacation.

OK thanks for the detail response. I just remember you mentioned how much you were liking slu-pp

What makes you believe mk is better then gh?