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Just read Dante's thread. Need a reality check on calories - transitioning from cut.

Too funny. But you're not too far off. I threw him $100 to work with me on a plan. And a lot of it is just in-person accountability, to be honest.

And yes, I have access to this community. Which is why I'm leveraging it to cross-compare my coach's advice with the knowledge here.

Not sure what the issue is.
Love everything about this 👆 for what it’s worth.

The issue is…

Miscommunication. Your going Hard in the Paint on @Communion but he’s not coming at you in a bad way IN MY personal opinion reading the thread but the Mod’s will tell you I read the room wrong sometimes so if YOU feel like he is let’s maybe try and explain our position again from a different angle. Or something. 🤷‍♂️ lol
 
And yes, I have access to this community. Which is why I'm leveraging it to cross-compare my coach's advice with the knowledge here.

Not sure what the issue is.
☝️ that's valid, to this board your coach is a no name. Sounds like he's an untested local coach. I would probably do the same, cross-reference his advice, at least in the beginning.
 
While I appreciate your advice, I’m going to “blow the FUCK UP” without becoming a fat sack of shit while doing so. I can gain mass this year without doing a dreamer bulk.

And the comment about me having a physique of a natural, and quoting the blast I started 2 weeks ago, can you explain what the significance is? Posted a starting pic and what I just started running. Thanks in advance for helping me understand the point you’re trying to make here.

My point was, you're taking too much drugs for your size. you can have another 30lbm of muscle and not need those dosages.

BUT. my advice is the worst here in 20 years, so dont worry - do your thing brother. Listen to them

You actually ended up creating a great thread though, dante chimed in with a dope post.
 
I really dont know what the best method to put on mass is.

I was at my biggest @ 250 5'11 in the 90s. I was not on a ton of gear, compared to what I see on the boards.

At this weight I could incline 405 for 3, flyes with 120s, deadlift in the upper 6s. It was the strongest I ever was.

I could see the top row of abs quite clearly.

How I got there was speaking to a gym owner, who won Provincials, and he asked me about my diet. I was doing the chicken and rice clean eating thing. He said fuck that and eat everything, especially highly salted foods. He suggested McDs at least once per day, which I did.

My strength went through the roof.

After reading on boards and learning more about nutrition this is obviously not a good strategy but it fucking worked.

Before I get asked for "pics" I dont have a time machine as I had pics, old school, and was in the worst earthquake in taiwan's history and lost everything except boxer shorts and a tshirt...evac'ed with the help of the Canadian embassy :(
 
Why not Mens physique? At the size and age you are, that's a more realistic goal right?
100% more realistic. I'd say that's probably a good goal, and then reassess. I don't have the mass right now for either, but that's what I've seen some guys do - tackle physique first, then acquire more mass to have a shot at classic.
 
100% more realistic. I'd say that's probably a good goal, and then reassess. I don't have the mass right now for either, but that's what I've seen some guys do - tackle physique first, then acquire more mass to have a shot at classic.

Yeah dude, I never took mens physique serious before; but then I saw pro men's physique guys in person, off season. Those guys are a lot bigger than you would think. If a six foot tall physique guy walks into the bank in the off season, I guarantee people there think he's huge.
 
Yeah dude, I never took mens physique serious before; but then I saw pro men's physique guys in person, off season. Those guys are a lot bigger than you would think. If a six foot tall physique guy walks into the bank in the off season, I guarantee people there think he's huge.
You should see the size of the Physique guy in my gym in Romania. These guys are huge nowadays.
 
You get fat off of excessive calories.
Yes but there are a dozen reasons why it’s difficult to get significant excess calories from lean meat proteins. The calories spent digesting it, and the calories spent converting its excess into glucose - which can almost always be stored as glycogen rather than fat - etc. Also just difficult to eat many calories from these sources. Very filling. If lean then no fat and not very calorie dense.
 
Agree but imo this is a big part why so many have a massive distended stomach and poor digestion. I can't imagine someone eating 430g protein having a flat stomach. It may have veins but it won't look good from a side view.
I think this is true enough
 
magic trick for dealing with big appetite while “bulking” = binge on lean proteins

you’ll never get fat even if you eat 10lbs of chicken breast

but all that extra protein will help you get big and will keep you full
you can get fat from overeating any calories.
All that extra protein will become inefficient expensive glycogen and cause digestive issues.
 
Hopefully you're aware that at your height a professional bodybuilder in the off-season is north of 100lbs of what you currently weigh. That is a tall task at 34 and not having alien like genetics.
I was thinking the same thing

Dude do you realize the numbers here in terms of what the scale is going to need to read?

And do you have $10,000 a year in your budget for gear ?
 
Yeah dude, I never took mens physique serious before; but then I saw pro men's physique guys in person, off season. Those guys are a lot bigger than you would think. If a six foot tall physique guy walks into the bank in the off season, I guarantee people there think he's huge.

You should see the size of the Physique guy in my gym in Romania. These guys are huge nowadays.
These post’s bring me joy.
 
you can get fat from overeating any calories.
All that extra protein will become inefficient expensive glycogen and cause digestive issues.
What people seem to forget by focusing on a single macronutrient is that the body doesn't just see them in isolation. Once you reach enough energy (calories) that your body demands it doesn't just look at how much protein you eat and only convert that to glycogen, it will still preferentially store the excess fat that you consume as adipose tissue.
 
You should see the size of the Physique guy in my gym in Romania. These guys are huge nowadays.
We have a guy here in this new gym I’ve been in. Physique competitor and the size is insane for his 6ft frame and he’s peeled. He will absolutely confuse the average person into thinking he’s the biggest guy they’ve ever seen. Until you stand next to these guys you won’t appreciate how high the bar is being raised in that class.
 
We have a guy here in this new gym I’ve been in. Physique competitor and the size is insane for his 6ft frame and he’s peeled. He will absolutely confuse the average person into thinking he’s the biggest guy they’ve ever seen. Until you stand next to these guys you won’t appreciate how high the bar is being raised in that class.
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agreed
 
My advice would be to- white rice or sushi rice and cream of rive. Cook until is a bit wet and firm. Eating this is nothing- digestion is amazing. Before you know it is time for next meal. You will need good digestion if you want to eat all those calories.
 

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