Just read Dante's thread. Need a reality check on calories - transitioning from cut.

[MackCoach]

Bro, I'm actually starting to feel bad for you. Every single time you post guys pounce and bust your balls. Maybe it's time to take a moment and contemplate before posting up. Think before you speak, it might save some of the mobbing you're getting. Just some constructive criticism. Seeing you're a rep; this doesn't shine well on the sponsor you're representing.

I appreciate your input and advice.

Let’s get back to the main point.

Anybody who wants to share their yearly list of gear who is pro or top level national competitor then let’s see it.

Point is , was, it’s not going to be a list of 3 or 4 compounds. It’s not going to be a list of 5 or 6 compounds. It’s going to be a lot bigger, and you’re not spending $120 or $400 a month on gear. Your spending a lot more.

That was my entire point.

Remember the OP stated he wanted to be an IFBB pro bodybuilder. He stated his height and weight. Another member then casually pointed out he needed to gain 70, 89, 100 pounds, whatever.

Then I simply added to that the reality of the money and gear involved.

 

[ninetynineHGH]

you can get fat from overeating any calories.
All that extra protein will become inefficient expensive glycogen and cause digestive issues.

technically true but in practice no one has ever put on significant far from boneless skin chicken breasts, egg whites, etc

if you are a big guy with a good amount of muscle in the middle of the off-season training hard with a stoked metabolism from months of gaining and eating, you'll be able to handle a binge session on some lean steak without finding yourself fatter than you wanted to be

 

[MackCoach]

Metabolic response from protein is 30%+
Metabolic response from carbohydrates is 10% at best
Metabolic response from fats is 0 to 1% at best
Yes a surplus of any macro can induce fat gain however what the macro is based on physiological metabolic response of putting food in your stomach makes a huge difference

One of many reasons why a high protein diet works so amazingly well even for the untrained individual

Mack

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[Chinaski]

One of the dumbest posts ive seen in 20 years being on forums, straight from the gh15 boards. So if I up my dosages I can literally eat shit..donuts..McDonald's...complete shit and defy the laws of thermodynamics? This is why there are so many aas users who are FAT...they run juice and eat shit..their a dime a dozen in every gym.

Fuck, I wish I had a dollar for every guy in the gym nowadays pushing 500mg plus on a regular basis and sporting a pot belly and tits with the tell-tale signs of abuse like red skin and back acne