Just Started Test E at 100mg/wk for 10wks

[newrob]

Great board! Need some feedback. Just started taking Test E (IV in the shoulder) at 100mg per week for a 10 week cycle. This is the first time I'm using steroids. I'm 44 and have been training on and off since 16 but have never made the gains or built the type of physique that I've envisioned. Recently found a friend who is a very experienced personal trainer and my training and diet is on track. Things are looking good. I also have a doctor who is checking my liver and kidneys and monitoring my use. What's the best way to approach what my next cycle should be. Currently I'm 5'10 at 188 at about 20% bodyfat. Good hardness but I don't have a defined enough look. I don't want to stack and want to avoid pct. Will Enthanate just give me sheer size and will the definition come from my training and diet over time. Thanks guys.

 

[qwerty_uk]

100mg a week? That dose is too low it would be TRT, not a cycle. I think you need to read some basic threads.

If you want a cycle you'll be wanting at least 250mg/wk and you will want at least a small PCT.

 

[vadim_b1]

Dosage is too low. At 100 mg/week all youre doing is shutting down natural testosterone and replacing it with a synthetic version. I suggest bumping up the dose to 250 mg/wk.

 

[STEVO 47]

I'm a little reluctant to post or reply anymore because my last couple
posts were deleted for reasons unknown but I dont want to see someone
screw them selves up either. you need to do a whole lot more researching
before you get into this brother. IV means shooting liquid into the vein and
thats a no no. and 100 mg's is a waist of time too. for your sake spend
a little more time studying up. this is serious shit when it comes to putting
something into your body. Take care
P.S. My deleted posts had nothing to do with this latest bullshit going on
either

 

[Tom]

20% B/F too high

You need to clean up your diet and do some cardio to get your bodyfat down to 15% before you consider test. I would say you need to read all you can on basic beginner threads regarding diet, training, and juice.

 

[qwerty_uk]

You need to clean up your diet and do some cardio to get your bodyfat down to 15% before you consider test. I would say you need to read all you can on basic beginner threads regarding diet, training, and juice.

Why? even 250mg is a fairly low dose that will help him loose fat and if he does cardio (as he should) it will help preserve the muscle.

(to make it clear though I dont think he is ready for a cycle as he clearly dont know what hes doing)

 

[Skarn]

Hey bro,

I agree with the others that 100mg/week is too low. If you are going to go through the hassle of sticking yourself, why not up the dose to at least 250mg/week and get better results? Also, why the shoulder? There's nothing wrong with that, but I haven't heard of 1st timers sticking the shoulders!

Why do you want to avoid PCT? The sole purpose of PCT is to keep as much gains as possible while restoring your natural test production. It's a good thing not bad!

Good luck!
Skarn

 

[marooned]

I agree with these guys about you researching more. These are basic info principals about hormone function, replacement, and supplemenation. Starting low is a safer route than jumping into a high dose cycle, but knowledge is the safest route to take.

You are only replacing the Test your body is already making itself at 100mg/wk. Unless you have low test levels already or some health issue that the Dr has recommended you be on HRT you are not doing yourself a favor at this low of dose.

You should take the time to learn about PCT. The only time you wouldn't plan on it is if you are on HRT with no plan of ever stopping synthetic supplementation of Test. Even at 100mg/wk your body will stop producing it's own Test and after you stop supplementing you will need to restart your own production as soon as possible to keep gains and stay healthy. Learn about it, plan on it, never start a cycle without having everything you will need for PCT in your hand, use it, and get blodd work after PCT.

Also, you don't take hormones IV! Your injections will be IM. I am assuming you just mispoke but it shows you don't have a clear understanding of what you are doing and that should scare you.

At your height, wieght, and BF% you can do much more than you are with training and diet. By far the largest percentage of reaching your goals is DIET. The largest percentage is DIET. There is no magic pill or potion. You will get out of your whole training program what you put into it as a whole. Good Luck.

 

[Dad]

Ah, marooned - another great post!

Seriously, thanks, man!

 

[Tom]

lean bodyweight

Why? even 250mg is a fairly low dose that will help him loose fat and if he does cardio (as he should) it will help preserve the muscle.

(to make it clear though I dont think he is ready for a cycle as he clearly dont know what hes doing)

Preserve what muscle Qwert? The guy is 5'10" and 188 with 20% B/F. That makes his actual lean bodyweight 152 lbs at that height. He really should drop the fat and start building muscle clean till he hits 180 or so. Then when he takes test he will achieve the look he is desiring.

 

[newrob]

my response

thanks for all the replies. i am working with a experienced and seasoned trainer. my diet and training is on key and for the last three months i have dropped 8-10 pounds of fat and have leaned/hardened up. i have good muscle memory from all the years of on and off training. i eat 1-1/2 to 2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight. i'm doing cardio every other day for 40 minutes in the morning on an empty stomach and i supplement with glutamine, creatine, vitamins, BCAA's, fibre, arginine/orthonine and lots of whey protein mostly in distilled water. i eat small meal of about 1 to 1 ration of protein to good carbs with good oil added to shake every 2-3 hours. i don't eat meat, only fish and eggs and dairy. i'm trying not to loose too much size while i loose fat. i was told to start modestly with a cycle and work up, but i never want to go to 500mg a week or higher or do a stack. I just don't want to go in this direction with steroids. I'd just like to get myself to the next level. I'm 44. I'd welcome all replies. And again, thanks very much. Feel free to private message to carry on a more detailed conversation.

 

[oldfella]

thanks for all the replies. i am working with a experienced and seasoned trainer. my diet and training is on key and for the last three months i have dropped 8-10 pounds of fat and have leaned/hardened up. i have good muscle memory from all the years of on and off training. i eat 1-1/2 to 2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight. i'm doing cardio every other day for 40 minutes in the morning on an empty stomach and i supplement with glutamine, creatine, vitamins, BCAA's, fibre, arginine/orthonine and lots of whey protein mostly in distilled water. i eat small meal of about 1 to 1 ration of protein to good carbs with good oil added to shake every 2-3 hours. i don't eat meat, only fish and eggs and dairy. i'm trying not to loose too much size while i loose fat. i was told to start modestly with a cycle and work up, but i never want to go to 500mg a week or higher or do a stack. I just don't want to go in this direction with steroids. I'd just like to get myself to the next level. I'm 44. I'd welcome all replies. And again, thanks very much. Feel free to private message to carry on a more detailed conversation.

WEEELLLLL..........Why not get a blood test and see where your normal level of test is at? If it is too low then get your dr. to put you on HRT/TRT and then keep following your seasoned trainers advice. It sounds to me like you do not need to worry about using aas. You don't really need it. But trt/hrt you might need. Also if your dr. prescribes it you will not be breaking any laws no matter where you live. Nice and safe.

 

[newrob]

me again

i spoke to my dr. about what i'm doing with Eth. i'm in Toronto. my levels won't show that i'm below normal, i know. he will only do blood work to test my levels of test to make sure that i'm not doing damage to my liver and kidneys 'cause i take other meds that can affect this. trainer doesn't believe that 100mg is just replacing natural with synthetic. at his best, he was at 4.5 % bodyfat and was just doing the same ammount of Enth and his competitive bodybuilding clients couldn't believe his shape and where taking way more complicated stacks. he says the 100mg will boost natural test to produce an anticatobolic edge. he says that it is all in the diet and training, which everyone on this board seems to agree with. i was thinking that my next cycle should go to 200mg after considering my blood work and results ove the next few months. what do you think. oh, yeah--the only way to get HRT is to go to a private "anti-aging" clinic. something that i can't afford to do. and their doses are not usually very high and clients to gain muscle if they train, but most of them are not seriously bodybuilding with the training and diet required. out.

 

[marooned]

If your natural levels are good and you don't want to go in the AAS direction then stick with the training you are doing. If you are looking for a boost in your training but aren't dedicated to doing an actual cycle I am afraid you will be disappointed in the results.

There have been some good answers but there is much more info here about your questions. Use the search button in the forum and read the articles section. Really take the time to research and learn about this stuff. No matter how experienced your trainer is, it will be good to get more info from other sources. Best of luck.

 

[Skarn]

trainer doesn't believe that 100mg is just replacing natural with synthetic.

Bro,

This statement is just simply not true. If you introduce synthetic test into your body, you WILL shut down your natural test production. This is not debatable, do the research yourself. Now, maybe 100mg/week is enough to not loose muscle, sure, but it definitely is NOT going to "boost natural test to produce an anticatobolic edge".

Good luck!
Skarn

 

[phatkid77]

PM sent....you r pretty close to a legitiment doctor.....HOLD OFF!

I Tested low at 27yr old....started legit HRT at 3oyrs old....

phats