keeping gains?

[Big DV]

ive done test enth an prop & fina & winny & deca & d-bols and a-50s,but off of each cycle i dont keep much gain , at pct i do clomid 1week 150 2nd week 100 an 3week at 50,and nolvadex at 20mg for 3weeks and hcg 5000iu first 5 days and another 5000 5 days later. someone please help what the fuck am i doin wrong?

 

[healthfreak79]

I wouldnt run the hcg in your pct

 

[spnsis1]

yea don't do hcg during pct. stop hcg use as soon as u start nolva/clomid

 

[terryd5150]

HCG is not why you are not keeping your gains.


What does your post-cycle diet and workout routine look like? You shouldn't lose your gains as quickly as you got them when you get done with your cycle. If you do, there is something wrong.


Keeping those gains permanently, however, is a different story.


The flat out best method to keep your gains is to never come off. People can flame away about that all they want, but it is the truth.

If your body's natural hormone level won't support you being 260lbs. then you aren't going to keep it permanently. You may hold onto it for a while, but you will lose it slowly over time, unless you cycle again.


I'm not saying you have to run an agressive cycle year-round, but the "blast and cruise" method works wonders for helping hold on to what you've gained.

Or, as an alternative to that, you may want to run a less agressive cycle and stay that way year-round, for example 500mg/test and 3-400 deca/eq. This way won't swell you up fast but the slower, steadier gains from this method tend to be easier to keep if you do decide to come off.

 

[BrooklynBB]

Do a search here... There's lots of info on this topic that were written years ago by the regulars. It's been answered many times before.

 

[wedge]

You are right on man

I agree with that 100%.

HCG is not why you are not keeping your gains.


What does your post-cycle diet and workout routine look like? You shouldn't lose your gains as quickly as you got them when you get done with your cycle. If you do, there is something wrong.


Keeping those gains permanently, however, is a different story.


The flat out best method to keep your gains is to never come off. People can flame away about that all they want, but it is the truth.

If your body's natural hormone level won't support you being 260lbs. then you aren't going to keep it permanently. You may hold onto it for a while, but you will lose it slowly over time, unless you cycle again.


I'm not saying you have to run an agressive cycle year-round, but the "blast and cruise" method works wonders for helping hold on to what you've gained.

Or, as an alternative to that, you may want to run a less agressive cycle and stay that way year-round, for example 500mg/test and 3-400 deca/eq. This way won't swell you up fast but the slower, steadier gains from this method tend to be easier to keep if you do decide to come off.

 

[Big Danny]

HCG is not why you are not keeping your gains.


What does your post-cycle diet and workout routine look like? You shouldn't lose your gains as quickly as you got them when you get done with your cycle. If you do, there is something wrong.


Keeping those gains permanently, however, is a different story.


The flat out best method to keep your gains is to never come off. People can flame away about that all they want, but it is the truth.

If your body's natural hormone level won't support you being 260lbs. then you aren't going to keep it permanently. You may hold onto it for a while, but you will lose it slowly over time, unless you cycle again.


I'm not saying you have to run an agressive cycle year-round, but the "blast and cruise" method works wonders for helping hold on to what you've gained.

Or, as an alternative to that, you may want to run a less agressive cycle and stay that way year-round, for example 500mg/test and 3-400 deca/eq. This way won't swell you up fast but the slower, steadier gains from this method tend to be easier to keep if you do decide to come off.

Fully agree with terryd, it is impossible to sustain those gains coming out of gear. I would not advice you to be non stop on gear. This is up to individual. You have the second option , terryd just mention before about.

 

[simon birch]

HCG is not why you are not keeping your gains.


What does your post-cycle diet and workout routine look like? You shouldn't lose your gains as quickly as you got them when you get done with your cycle. If you do, there is something wrong.


Keeping those gains permanently, however, is a different story.


The flat out best method to keep your gains is to never come off. People can flame away about that all they want, but it is the truth.

If your body's natural hormone level won't support you being 260lbs. then you aren't going to keep it permanently. You may hold onto it for a while, but you will lose it slowly over time, unless you cycle again.


I'm not saying you have to run an agressive cycle year-round, but the "blast and cruise" method works wonders for helping hold on to what you've gained.

Or, as an alternative to that, you may want to run a less agressive cycle and stay that way year-round, for example 500mg/test and 3-400 deca/eq. This way won't swell you up fast but the slower, steadier gains from this method tend to be easier to keep if you do decide to come off.

Agreed.....you also might wanna try taperin off slowly while doin yout pct as this will help your body get more stable. Also, i like less agressive cycles like terry stated. I've always found that the slower the gains come on the more I will keep. take care