Kickboxing and Muscle Mass

[Jigawigga]

Hello, everyone. I want to begin training in kickboxing, but I don't know if it will disturb my muscle training. I know that kickboxing is a great source for martial defense, but do its activities burn off muscle mass? These activities include headbutting, punching, kicking, kneeing, and such. I am quite into both of these: Muscle-building and Kickboxing. Yet, I don't know if punching and kicking activities burn off muscle. Thank you.

 

[BigBoyJ]

You won't be able to hold as much muscle mass if you're doing intense martial arts training. Heavy weight training and speed training create two different adaptive responses in muscle tissue. You could alternate the two training styles, build some good size, then use the kickboxing to cut up. Or, you could do both simultaneously and just be fairly muscular and lean. Either way, the weights will only compliment your martial arts training, whether you're able to add extra size or not.

 

[cryptasm]

And its pretty hard to take the greuling workouts at 245...I suc wind when Im heavy during my traing..at 227 I am alot lighter on my feet and have more endurance, and am quicker..so find a good compromise..

 

[Big Bapper]

Headbutting ?? Thats a new Kickboxing move to me but very effect I was hit a headbutt at work of Friday night and nearly lossed a tooth, we were putting 6 people out of a bar when one run from behind and bang headbutted me stright in my mouth and run as fast as he could(a real low act), I went out on to the street in a rage. The manager of the bar tried to stop me and he was told to f**k off so it was 6 on one and they just run, now he is saying he beat the big guy one on one LOL ..........I would love to be able to combine my BodyBuilding with Kickboxing as I love both sports but when I started Bodybuilding the kickboxing had too go as it interfears with my recovery from my Bodybuilding workouts....... its hard sometimes to get to the gym for a weights workout after sparing Thia style when you are covered from head to toe in brusies........... It all depends on your goals IMO if your like me and want to get as big as possible then I would give kickboxing a miss but if you do not compete in Bodybuilding and do it just for fun then go for it Kickboxing is a Great sport. On the flip side of the coin you have Pro Bodybuilder Ernie Taylor who combines Kickboxing with his Bodybuilding but we all dont have the gentices of Big ET.

 

[WARLORD_123]

IT can be done, but you must prioritize.....

I am currently sitting at around 275-280, I still train heavy in the martial arts, but the secret is periodization. For Example if you look up my recent posts, you will see that I am on a Bench press specialization program right now. So with that in mind I have cut down my kickboxing/grappling program to a maintainance phase. I train two maybe three times a week and very light focus mitt work, light rolling just to keep my technique in check. Once I am satisified with my strength level, and I am ready to lean out a bit although maintain my strength, I hit up my fight training 5 days a week, and I drop my weight workouts to Full Body HEavy Weight Low Volume on mondays (HIT style), and depending on my personal recovery I may throw another lower intensity workout in somewhere between thurs and Friday). During phases like this you are doing so much cardio that it your NUTRITION/CALORIE INTAKE MUST BE MODIFIED TO FACILITATE RECOVERY ACCORDINGLY.
ALSO YOUR CHEMICAL ENHANCMENT PROGRAM NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED AS YOU MOVE FROM PHASE TO PHASE. BUT THE NUTRITION AND REST ASPECT IS PRORITY NUMERO UNO, THAT MEANS NO LATE NIGHT PARTYING AND RECREATIONAL DRUG USE, AND VERY VERY LIMITED USE OF ALCOHOL.

IF you are interested in a more specific explanation feel free to pm me.

By the way I cut down to around 255 for my fighting weight, sometimes as low as 245.

 

[bigheinz]

I am currently sitting at around 275-280, I still train heavy in the martial arts, but the secret is periodization. For Example if you look up my recent posts, you will see that I am on a Bench press specialization program right now. So with that in mind I have cut down my kickboxing/grappling program to a maintainance phase. I train two maybe three times a week and very light focus mitt work, light rolling just to keep my technique in check. Once I am satisified with my strength level, and I am ready to lean out a bit although maintain my strength, I hit up my fight training 5 days a week, and I drop my weight workouts to Full Body HEavy Weight Low Volume on mondays (HIT style), and depending on my personal recovery I may throw another lower intensity workout in somewhere between thurs and Friday). During phases like this you are doing so much cardio that it your NUTRITION/CALORIE INTAKE MUST BE MODIFIED TO FACILITATE RECOVERY ACCORDINGLY.
ALSO YOUR CHEMICAL ENHANCMENT PROGRAM NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED AS YOU MOVE FROM PHASE TO PHASE. BUT THE NUTRITION AND REST ASPECT IS PRORITY NUMERO UNO, THAT MEANS NO LATE NIGHT PARTYING AND RECREATIONAL DRUG USE, AND VERY VERY LIMITED USE OF ALCOHOL.

IF you are interested in a more specific explanation feel free to pm me.

By the way I cut down to around 255 for my fighting weight, sometimes as low as 245.

Agree. i am training the Mui Thai world champion write now and i only train him with HIT techniques once a week some time 2 times a week depending on hes kickboxing season, and recover is the key to achieve gains in bouth sports, he is 230 pounds 8% write now and he competes in 218 pounds (light heavyweight) drug free.

I work with hes carbs intake, protein intake, fats, sugars, etc, glutamine.

Remember he burns a lot of calories at kickboxing practice 2 times a day and running 1 hour every morning and some times every night.

It is very difficult to gain muscle and be efficient in hes sport without periodization and a proper training technique.

 

[JETHRO TULL]

One or the other will suffer.

I personally have trouble with recovery in the best of circumstances. Add something as strenuous as boxing or wrestling into the mix and my bodyweight goes down quickly. I tried coaching wrestling once when I first started teaching.....rolling around with two of the heavy weights....my lifts went down and I was sore all the time.

I would use the weight lifting to augment your martial arts training. But there is no way you are going to both full on. So...like the other guys are saying..put one on the back burner from time to time.