Honestly I'm not a fan of em, I have hell getting them over my calves and my knee cap is pretty small so they are always baggy around the knee. The way my quads insert above my knee caps just about make them worthless. I just use a couple different brands of knee wraps depending on how I am training that day. Works out well but wrapping does get old. Now I have friends that used to above brands mentioned and they love them. Rarely take them off.