Know this is CONTEST condition!!

[VTliftVT]

I'll bet he's pretty stacked up off-season. You almost can't help but flatten out getting down that low... even with "help" the timing has to be right on, the planets have to be aligned... all that.Very inspirational. I almost put down this second pop-tart. But then again, it is a high carb day.


That's really impressive.


Where's my milk... oh there it is... n/m


p.s. Lats, chest, and more quad sweep

Your correct there. He looks twice as big in the off season. He swears to being natural and is in all of the natural bb'ing magazines and competes in natty shows. He's a beast when he trains. He would be something else if he ever allowed himself to flip to the dark side. He'd hold far more weight I feel in the cutting process...

 

[Wolfpack]

You can even see the attachment from his IT band going into his hip from the side.

 

[lestatgear]

wow - ripped and as dry as my wife on our wedding night.

 

[chris250]

I dont know about you guys...But I think sometimes the natty guys (or supposed natty guys, im not saying Kurt isnt natty) come in much harder and more ripped/dry than guys on gear...Im not sure why, maybe less things to mess up your conditioning ? No estrogen, or less estrogen ? Maybe they dont come in as big, but there conditioning is better than most NPC guys...

chris

 

[hard2core2]

You brought up an interesting point Chris.... I do know that Kurt diets for an extended period of time...20 weeks or more.. and he is in great shape in the offseason at 230 or so...I saw him and he was brick thick! When these picutures were taken..he told me that was right around 200 pounds or so...From looking at the pictures..From looking at his pics he must have a few vestiges of fat somewhere I guess?? otherwise he is just basically skin, muscle and organs...
He trains very hard from what I am told....

I dont know about you guys...But I think sometimes the natty guys (or supposed natty guys, im not saying Kurt isnt natty) come in much harder and more ripped/dry than guys on gear...Im not sure why, maybe less things to mess up your conditioning ? No estrogen, or less estrogen ? Maybe they dont come in as big, but there conditioning is better than most NPC guys...

chris

 

[mountaindog1]

You brought up an interesting point Chris.... I do know that Kurt diets for an extended period of time...20 weeks or more.. and he is in great shape in the offseason at 230 or so...I saw him and he was brick thick! When these picutures were taken..he told me that was right around 200 pounds or so...From looking at the pictures..From looking at his pics he must have a few vestiges of fat somewhere I guess?? otherwise he is just basically skin, muscle and organs...
He trains very hard from what I am told....

Hi Ivor - this guy is def in shape no doubt. Him being very natural is also very believable, not the thickest guy, I could def see someone getting into this kind of shape natural. There are some guys around here getting ready for the Team U that are favorites, and are loaded to the gills...not fair to guys like your buddy here.

John Meadows

 

[chris250]

Hi Ivor - this guy is def in shape no doubt. Him being very natural is also very believable, not the thickest guy, I could def see someone getting into this kind of shape natural. There are some guys around here getting ready for the Team U that are favorites, and are loaded to the gills...not fair to guys like your buddy here.

John Meadows

John,

do they actully test the Team U guys ??? I have always wonder that...I mean some of them in the past (robert washington, Skip (might be natty), some other big guys) have won that with some pretty impressive size...

chris