Kratom newbie here...

[tenny]

maybe your "google" is broken....



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some of the major players are

Krakenkratom
Kratomsyndicate
blueriverwellness

 

[Aikman56]

Do yourself a favor don't touch the shit. It's garbage !!

Bad experience?

 

[maldorf]

I guess congress hasn't made it a scheduled substance yet? I know they were looking at doing that. Curious about how that is going if anyone knows. The cost will really skyrocket when that happens. Be nice to be in on selling it right before it does so.

 

[tenny]

I guess congress hasn't made it a scheduled substance yet? I know they were looking at doing that. Curious about how that is going if anyone knows. The cost will really skyrocket when that happens. Be nice to be in on selling it right before it does so.

that's what happen the last time they tried...

everyone prices doubled.....and everything sold out in a few days.
could only get scraps here and there...

 

[Samson250]

I guess congress hasn't made it a scheduled substance yet? I know they were looking at doing that. Curious about how that is going if anyone knows. The cost will really skyrocket when that happens. Be nice to be in on selling it right before it does so.

On a national level it's not a scheduled. Some states have banned it. There are battleground states like mine that try to make it illegal but here a ton of us addicts came forward and they are taking more time to research it.

 

[Samson250]

Bad experience?

If you are not dealing with an addiction to opiates and just looking for a supplement you SHOULD NOT do it. It's not worth the price regardless how much you pay. Way better sources for energy or relaxation.

Seriously man I love the shit but if your not an opiate abuser DONT DO IT!

 

[Samson250]

maybe your "google" is broken....

Thank you for the heads up.

 

[MAD_SCIENTIST]

maybe your "google" is broken....



**broken link removed**

some of the major players are

Krakenkratom
Kratomsyndicate
blueriverwellness

Yes...these guys I use and others tenny listed. Rotate these companies. Good kratom.
Take care.
MS

 

[tj30m0]

My brother in law gets the mix of red and white and it's the best strains I've had.

I used to just use the white.

 

[Giants83]

Or more depending on the shop tenny!



I have a friend who owns a local chain of shops and I get a massive discount closer to cost.



Just now I paid $21usd for 30 grams of quality Green Borneo.

A single dose for me is a bottle of 42 capsules (roughly 30 grams) and I pay $36usd.



Figure about a dollar a gram tenny.



On the other hand I'm not shooting up so..

Good quality kilos go for $80. Head shops charge a fortune.

 

[Giants83]

If you are not dealing with an addiction to opiates and just looking for a supplement you SHOULD NOT do it. It's not worth the price regardless how much you pay. Way better sources for energy or relaxation.



Seriously man I love the shit but if your not an opiate abuser DONT DO IT!

I don't think kratom is only beneficial to opiate addicts. I mean it absolutely his more than beneficial for them but also for people who want to seek and alternative to opioid pain medication. Myself personally switched from prescription meds to kratom. I will say though and I tell everybody this kratom can be physically addictive. Some say they don't get addicted and maybe they don't but I can damn sure attest to its physical addiction.

OP if you want to use it as a pick me up just use it sparingly. Like Mike said whites and greens are ideal. I see nothing wrong with recreational use but user beware. There are far worst things out there like alcohol.

 

[Giants83]

I guess congress hasn't made it a scheduled substance yet? I know they were looking at doing that. Curious about how that is going if anyone knows. The cost will really skyrocket when that happens. Be nice to be in on selling it right before it does so.

They won't. A large group of senators and congressmen came together to block the DEA attempted emergency scheduling of it and many of the states that had bills to ban died on the floor. And some of the states where it's banned already are on there way to legalizing it. With the opioid epidemic they have seen the value of kratom. Not just for addicts but for many other people from all sort of walks of life. Many universities have been researching it and there have been some very positive results. They are even adding extra language to SISTA before it becomes law to ensure that kratom will not be touched under that law. I think it has potential and at most should be regulated. Just like it can end addictions I believe it can start one too but mostly with younger people who have access to it. Grab some from a head shop. Enjoy it. Let's try something else now. Same story we've heard many times with other stuff.

 

[mike036]

Kratom does have its benefits.I have been using it for 3 years now ever since Queefer sent me some samples.I am not a coffee drinker so kratom gets me up in the morning.It definitely boosts the immune system because I haven't been sick since I started using it and in the past I would get sick all of the time.I buy kilos for $80 like Giants83 does.You do need more and more to get the desired effect so if you can use it sparingly you will get all the benefits

 

[philmcgroin]

I thought they made it illegal,but anyway I'm surprised everyone is so open about it on such a conservative board.personaly,having been down that road many years ago believe me you are going down a dark road

 

[tenny]

I thought they made it illegal,but anyway I'm surprised everyone is so open about it on such a conservative board.personaly,having been down that road many years ago believe me you are going down a dark road

as long as you aren't "chasing a high".....I think its fine....

everyday users...have trouble coming....

I noticed myself digging in after my last meal....and had to back
off alittle....

me and the lady like 3 or 4 grams after dinner....

for recovery....its a totally different set of circumstance....
I don't know anything about that....

I use it for the sedation and relax before bed purpose...not
the pep or energy....

 

[jcc80]

I've decided to work Kratom into my prep. I'm in that last 4 weeks and feeling like dogshit. I have a highly-demanding, competitive job, so I can't afford to slip up, even for a few weeks.

To that end, I bought some Red Maeng Da. I started with 4g.

The first time I took it, late afternoon, I got that great rush and had the best workout that I've had in weeks. I also slept better that night than in quite a while.

However, with every ensuing day, I notice that while the kick is there, I also get TOO relaxed and drowsy as hell about 3-4 hours after taking it.

Are there better strains for ONLY energy or for more energy? I'm doing this prep without any clenbuterol or T3, so there's no chance of over-stimming myself.

I need that kick without any over-relaxation.

Additionally, this is not something I'm looking to use long-term. Once my competitions are over (3 weeks then 4 more), I'll be back to normal with a few additional calories.

Thanks for any input in advance!

I have a slightly different perspective... Don't start with 4 grams! Start with a gram or two. Kratom has a tendency to feel more stimulating at lower doses, and start moving towards sedation at higher doses.

So for your purposes, less is more. And when it's time to come off, you'll be glad you didn't stick with 4 grams... Which turns into 5 grams, then 6... You get the picture.

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[Miss Q]

I have a slightly different perspective... Don't start with 4 grams! Start with a gram or two. Kratom has a tendency to feel more stimulating at lower doses, and start moving towards sedation at higher doses.

So for your purposes, less is more. And when it's time to come off, you'll be glad you didn't stick with 4 grams... Which turns into 5 grams, then 6... You get the picture.

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^ This all day long. LESS = energy and MORE = sedation. I would definitely stick with whites & greens during prep.

 

[brucepancake]

maybe your "google" is broken....



**broken link removed**

some of the major players are

Krakenkratom
Kratomsyndicate
blueriverwellness

Thats exactly what I was going to add until I read that Tenny. I love this guys . Ex military and the shit is good. I have never had a bad strain.

 

[brucepancake]

I thought they made it illegal,but anyway I'm surprised everyone is so open about it on such a conservative board.personaly,having been down that road many years ago believe me you are going down a dark road

Why its legal in almost every state. And although you need to be cautious, its natural. Fuck taking pain meds from the pharma. That shit can ruin your life.

 

[machinemind]

and ive often wondered if your really getting what you
are ordering......

ive had ALL kinds of different strains and its a crap shoot
to see what they do.....

if we get a batch we like....we just try to order a larger amount
asap of that exact batch (if we can)...

ive had red thai that was the best kratom ive ever had...
ordered more 3 weeks later....and was horrible....unusable in fact..

its a crap shoot.

my thoughts exactly...this is the take-away message