Lab Results

[AllLoadedUp]

Been on 500 Test Cyp and 400 NPP the past 5 weeks. Decided to drop the NPP and do EQ. Only did I believe 3 or 4 shots of EQ. So not really enough time to effect anything much. I noticed I was getting emotional so I went and had labs done plus I wanted to know what was going on inside me anyway. Normally I just do TRT which is 250 Test every week to 10 days. First "cycle" I've done in about 5 yrs.

Results
Cholesterol 216
HDL 40
Triglycerides 101
LDL 155
NHDL 176

RBC (Red Blood Cell Count) 6.01 Range is 4.2-5.8
Hemoglobin 17.8 Range is 13.2-17.1
Hematocrit 55.3 Range is 38.5-50

Albumin- 4.9 Range 3.6-5.1
SHBG- 9 Range 10-50
Total Test -1320
Prolactin- 12.3
Free Test- 450
Test Bio Available - 1003
Estradiol - 50

Obviously that Estradiol has got to come down. That's where my emotional shit is coming from. Not too happy about the LDL and NHDL either. The RBC and Hemoglobin and Hematocrit are elevated but not far out of range. Please chime in with any views or advice you guys have. Yes feel free to give me crap if I need it. What do you guys recommend to get that Estradiol down? Believe it or not I've never really messed with any AI before. Never really needed it. But I'm older now so I guess its time to get on that. Thanks.

 

[mexbeast]

Test looks low for 500, no? I would just wait it out for a few weeks. The npp will be out of your system in no time and you should start feeling better, I know the npp could be detected for months but it will be so low that it won't be relevant. Just in case

 

[KingOfSushi]

How much cardio are you doing and what’s your fat intake/sources

 

[AllLoadedUp]

Test looks low for 500, no? I would just wait it out for a few weeks. The npp will be out of your system in no time and you should start feeling better, I know the npp could be detected for months but it will be so low that it won't be relevant. Just in case

Frankly I'm not sure what it should be for 500mg per week. Doesn't that vary for everyone?

 

[AllLoadedUp]

How much cardio are you doing and what’s your fat intake/sources

Doing 30-35 minutes per session. Fat is from meat, avocados, macadamia nut oil, natural peanut butter. I try to limit carbs. I was eating a cup of oatmeal per day. But I've dropped that to 1/2 a cup per day as far as carbs. I do drink 2 shakes per day. About 1000 calories per shake. My calorie intake is around 4000 per day. Maybe a little over. I've been dealing with some injuries so cardio/training hasn't been as consistent. I generally try to get it in 4-5 times a week.

 

[AllLoadedUp]

Test looks low for 500, no? I would just wait it out for a few weeks. The npp will be out of your system in no time and you should start feeling better, I know the npp could be detected for months but it will be so low that it won't be relevant. Just in case

No idea why my entire response to you didn't come up. My Estradiol is 50. Had my labs done through Quest. According to their chart the Estradiol should be <39. So I'm guessing that's why I'm having issues. I also have a lot more acne than usual. Little red zits on my arms. Normally I have none on my arms. More on my back than usual and the sides of my ass are broke out worse than usual. I don't really have any sex drive either. Not that I have a woman anyway. Ha ha. But sex doesn't really interest me at the moment.

 

[Zamun]

I get around the same levels with enanthate if I inject daily. I’m a poor responder to E so I use prop instead.

Frankly I'm not sure what it should be for 500mg per week. Doesn't that vary for everyone?

 

[AllLoadedUp]

I get around the same levels with enanthate if I inject daily. I’m a poor responder to E so I use prop instead.

Well I used E for years. But then I started noticing some redness/itching after I would inject it. Not a lot but noticeable. I read some guys on here say that Test E did that to them. So I switched to Test Cyp and haven't had any of those issues anymore. No pain either. Go figure. I inject twice a week.

 

[Dumbbell2008]

Frankly I'm not sure what it should be for 500mg per week. Doesn't that vary for everyone?

I have been wondering the same. It does vary person to person, but total test at 1320 does seem low…

 

[AllLoadedUp]

Any opinion on my Estradiol guys? That is what I think is causing me issues as far as being emotional and not really having a sex drive.

 

[primobolan]

Any opinion on my Estradiol guys? That is what I think is causing me issues as far as being emotional and not really having a sex drive.

I think you just answered your own question. I don't like targeting numbers on a paper so "50" is irrelevant. Now that being said being emotional and having a disruption in sex drive is a problem. Although AI's have been bastardized in certain circles I believe its because they have been misused. The standard 1mg size tablet in based on women using it for breast cancer and is not ideal for men in my opinion. Split the tab in quarters and start with a .25mg dose and go by feel from there, hell you can even split them into 8ths and start with .125mg dosing. To high of an E2 level can be just as bad as to low for some so the idea is to nudge it a bit instead of hitting it with a 1mg sledgehammer. The 1/2 life is 40-50 hours so give it time see if nocturnal erections return and go from there. This is all opinion but have seen it work very well with others in the past. Good luck whatever route you choose.

 

[cuz]

Your blood work looks just like mine except my estrogen is a little higher, usually between 60 and 70 if I recall correctly. I take 12.5mg of aromasin to keep in normal range.

 

[KingOfSushi]

Doing 30-35 minutes per session. Fat is from meat, avocados, macadamia nut oil, natural peanut butter. I try to limit carbs. I was eating a cup of oatmeal per day. But I've dropped that to 1/2 a cup per day as far as carbs. I do drink 2 shakes per day. About 1000 calories per shake. My calorie intake is around 4000 per day. Maybe a little over. I've been dealing with some injuries so cardio/training hasn't been as consistent. I generally try to get it in 4-5 times a week.

A 4K+ calorie diet that is low carb must be very high fat… which would explain the lipids bro

 

[AllLoadedUp]

A 4K+ calorie diet that is low carb must be very high fat… which would explain the lipids bro

When I was doing Keto "like" my LDL was lowest it had ever been. Like 60 I think. Id have to go back and look. My Triglycerides was 400. Now my Triglycerides are 101 and LDL 155. I was eating more fat then than now. I am about 6 yrs older though. Go figure. Keto also improved my liver numbers too.

 

[AllLoadedUp]

I think you just answered your own question. I don't like targeting numbers on a paper so "50" is irrelevant. Now that being said being emotional and having a disruption in sex drive is a problem. Although AI's have been bastardized in certain circles I believe its because they have been misused. The standard 1mg size tablet in based on women using it for breast cancer and is not ideal for men in my opinion. Split the tab in quarters and start with a .25mg dose and go by feel from there, hell you can even split them into 8ths and start with .125mg dosing. To high of an E2 level can be just as bad as to low for some so the idea is to nudge it a bit instead of hitting it with a 1mg sledgehammer. The 1/2 life is 40-50 hours so give it time see if nocturnal erections return and go from there. This is all opinion but have seen it work very well with others in the past. Good luck whatever route you choose.

My buddy has some Arimidex. Im gonna get 4 pills from him then split up. Gonna order some also. You think 1/4 every couple days will be good? Like I said I've never used an AI. So it's new to me. Well I guess I did use Nolvadex back in the day for PCT. But that was when I use to go on and off. Thanks.

 

[AllLoadedUp]

Your blood work looks just like mine except my estrogen is a little higher, usually between 60 and 70 if I recall correctly. I take 12.5mg of aromasin to keep in normal range.

How often do you take that? Do you know what level it gets your estrogen down to? When you're at 60-70 how do you feel? Thanks.

 

[KingOfSushi]

When I was doing Keto "like" my LDL was lowest it had ever been. Like 60 I think. Id have to go back and look. My Triglycerides was 400. Now my Triglycerides are 101 and LDL 155. I was eating more fat then than now. I am about 6 yrs older though. Go figure. Keto also improved my liver numbers too.

Just giving you an honest assessment. I’m not well versed in keto and how being in ketosis may effect that.

Drugs, bf%, etc then vs now also can be at play in the differences.

 

[Siggy]

An estradiol of 50 isnt very high. The prevailing theory is that anything above the male average for estrogen is going to turn you into an emotionally unhinged tranny/it will make you grow breasts and a vagina. Its pretty funny.

I just now saw that your estradiol was a whopping 10 points over normal. I seriously doubt its the cause of your symptoms. But go ahead and crush your estrogen with letro, maybe it will help out.

 

[MajinBoo]

An estradiol of 50 isnt very high. The prevailing theory is that anything above the male average for estrogen is going to turn you into an emotionally unhinged tranny/it will make you grow breasts and a vagina. Its pretty funny.

I just now saw that your estradiol was a whopping 10 points over normal. I seriously doubt its the cause of your symptoms. But go ahead and crush your estrogen with letro, maybe it will help out.

I think the same. Having estradiol at 50 should not cause any emotional side effects. I would not take an AI for that. Also you just added EQ which will lower the estrogen as it builds up. Note that your hematocrit is already 55 and tends to increased with EQ.
When comes to LDL, what's your fiber intake? do you use any health supplements like citrus bergamot, red yeast rice? I would start from there and include cardio in the routine.
Have you considered if those emotions are not cycle related?

 

[specter]

your test level depends on several things among others when did you inject last time before blood draw ? how much do you inject each time and even the muscle used can have effect on how the uptake into the blood is handled.