Lab Values

[Vaxene]

I looked around via the search function, but couldn't find exactly what I was looking for. I work in a hospital and used to work in the lab, so I have a little pull down there. I just drew my own blood and am having them run it now to check test levels as well and liver and renal functions. I was using sust/tren for a couple months (last inject of sust being right at a month ago -- doing 750mg/wk) and I'm just wondering what kind of values should I look/hope for on my testosterone results? I know liver values and renal functions (I'm a nurse in an ICU so we see these tests ALL the time), but I'm not too familiar with the numerical values for testosterone, on and off cycle. If someone could give me an idea of what values I should hope for and what numbers I should try to obtain, I'd really appreciate it. I'm about to begin a new cycle and wanted to get an idea of pre-gear values and then I plan to draw blood at least once a month during the cycle to monitor everything. All liver protectants are in place and after doing exhaustive amounts of research, I THINK I have decided on a cycle to make me happy.

Thanks a ton in advance, guys!!

 

[samiam]

a Google search (or the test itself) will tell you the normal ranges.

Varies so much person to person. are you asking what the level might be after a month off or while on a certain dose?

 

[Vaxene]

yeah, i did the google search as well as looked up the "normal lab values" on the test itself. i already knew i could do that. however, my question was for people that actually KNOW gear like the members of this board....especially the ones that keep up with their lab values regularly. i wanted firsthand experience input, not something the books and medical journals say. i am curious to see where vets attempt to reach/goals for their numbers....

i actually just got back from the lab downstairs. my buddy that ran everything for me said that everything looked good and he was actually really surprised at my values (he uses gear as well). my liver and renal functions were completely normal....not even close to being out of normal limits. however, my testosterone value was 1030.49 ng/dl. now i know it's higher than "normal accepted values" but how high is it really?? could it be higher? is higher necessarily better? how much higher do i want it to be before it's TOO high? is there such a thing as TOO high??

sorry it's a lot of questions. i've done all the research on gear: the esters, which ones mix best, sides, PCT's, length of cycles, nutrition....everything. i just don't know lab numbers when it comes to this sort of thing.

thanks

 

[gelatine]

Your testosterone is right at the top of the natural range, which is very unusual for someone with a last inject of sust 1 month ago. If you were taking real sust at 750mg/wk you should just be finishing clearing it out of your system right about now and starting PCT. I bet the gear's no good and PCT elevated your natural levels or you did not have sust... maybe test prop if you started PCT right after your last injection, that could explain your numbers too.

What was your PCT?

 

[Vaxene]

standard nolva PCT, nothing fancy.

i did however go back and actually check a calendar. i had assumed cycle was ended 4 weeks ago, but it's actually slightly shorter than 6. guess it was a little longer than i had thought it was. (ended up getting married little over two months ago and guess i lost track in all of that commotion).

thanks

 

[notsobig32]

yeah, i did the google search as well as looked up the "normal lab values" on the test itself. i already knew i could do that. however, my question was for people that actually KNOW gear like the members of this board....especially the ones that keep up with their lab values regularly. i wanted firsthand experience input, not something the books and medical journals say. i am curious to see where vets attempt to reach/goals for their numbers....

i actually just got back from the lab downstairs. my buddy that ran everything for me said that everything looked good and he was actually really surprised at my values (he uses gear as well). my liver and renal functions were completely normal....not even close to being out of normal limits. however, my testosterone value was 1030.49 ng/dl. now i know it's higher than "normal accepted values" but how high is it really?? could it be higher? is higher necessarily better? how much higher do i want it to be before it's TOO high? is there such a thing as TOO high??

sorry it's a lot of questions. i've done all the research on gear: the esters, which ones mix best, sides, PCT's, length of cycles, nutrition....everything. i just don't know lab numbers when it comes to this sort of thing.

thanks

on the bloodwork that i get, it usually lists the top level of normal as like 1200. When i am running 500mg, i get somewhere around 3200 on total test and i will have to look up the test for free test but i think that it ranges somewhere between 1200-1600 depending on any number of things.

Sust can be rather long acting so your levels very possibly could still be elevated after a month. Are you running any pct or anything? That could affect it to. Are you worried about what your levels are going to dip to? Or what the highest you can get them up to while you are on?

 

[Vaxene]

i'm not worried too much about dipping. i think i'm fine there. i think i'm more concerned with what might be too high. or does that really vary greatly between individuals??

 

[notsobig32]

i'm not worried too much about dipping. i think i'm fine there. i think i'm more concerned with what might be too high. or does that really vary greatly between individuals??

different people react differently to hormones. I have a friend who says he takes a good bit more than me but his values on his blood test are never higher. I think it is all individual. My humble opinion.