IronLion2
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Lantus really interests me as a physique competitor, the claims of "10x more affinity to bind with IGF receptors" sounds good on paper.
Especially compared to rapid acting slin and tons of carbs. From my prior reading, observations, and studies; rapid acting slin simply allows the cell to accept more nutrients and fill/dilates to an extreme size. I know there are more benefits than that, but it's my belief that this is the majority of the benefits of rapid insulin. Where as Lantus, I could realistically run large amounts of GH with lesser carbs and hope for really solid gains and maybe even some hyperplasia ???
The advantages of rapid slin dont necessarily apply to me; cheap, plenty of research, and easy to come by. I can find lantus from the pharmacy for $100 a month, up to 50IU's a day.
Just to play devils advocate from both bodybuilders and diabetics I hear how much easier it is to gain fat on lantus/basal insulin as compared to rapid acting. I also hear how much more necessary thyroid support is for basal.
Which leads me to the major question, is it a poor choice to jump straight to a lower dose of lantus without a background in rapid slin? Would likely start with 15-25IU's AM and 10IU's PM stacked with 6-10IU's GH split throughout the day.
Am I off base with my assumptions of basal insulins vs rapid insulin? These are the kinds of things I hoped to find on this forum specifically, less fear mongering more discussion on the deeper topics!
Especially compared to rapid acting slin and tons of carbs. From my prior reading, observations, and studies; rapid acting slin simply allows the cell to accept more nutrients and fill/dilates to an extreme size. I know there are more benefits than that, but it's my belief that this is the majority of the benefits of rapid insulin. Where as Lantus, I could realistically run large amounts of GH with lesser carbs and hope for really solid gains and maybe even some hyperplasia ???
The advantages of rapid slin dont necessarily apply to me; cheap, plenty of research, and easy to come by. I can find lantus from the pharmacy for $100 a month, up to 50IU's a day.
Just to play devils advocate from both bodybuilders and diabetics I hear how much easier it is to gain fat on lantus/basal insulin as compared to rapid acting. I also hear how much more necessary thyroid support is for basal.
Which leads me to the major question, is it a poor choice to jump straight to a lower dose of lantus without a background in rapid slin? Would likely start with 15-25IU's AM and 10IU's PM stacked with 6-10IU's GH split throughout the day.
Am I off base with my assumptions of basal insulins vs rapid insulin? These are the kinds of things I hoped to find on this forum specifically, less fear mongering more discussion on the deeper topics!