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how many bottles come in a case??? 12? 15?
12 bottles of the good stuff
how many bottles come in a case??? 12? 15?
I would ask the person you bought it from. That should be part of the package deal.
Eastern is a biotch! One of the toughest Regionals in the country.... right up there with the Cali and the Southern States
GREAT!!!!! I am so looking forward to it!!!! NOT!!! See you in NYC
TP: I'll see you at the show hopefully. I was gonna do the show but in the process of trying to keep up with Hottt, i tore my calf so im out of the show. Plus i just dont have what it takes right now to hang with the big boys.
He should be a light heavy if everything goes as planned.
Fair Call!!I would ask the person you bought it from. That should be part of the package deal.
Fair Call!!
Actually being that i didnt know he sold singles... and i planned to buy bulk IF i liked it.. i would assume he would direct me on how to like it... kinda like how a personal trainer would show you what they can do for you, not refuse to help u unless you buy sessions first. Kinda leaves a bad taste in your mouth about dealing with the person doesnt it?
Actually being that i didnt know he sold singles... and i planned to buy bulk IF i liked it.. i would assume he would direct me on how to like it... kinda like how a personal trainer would show you what they can do for you, not refuse to help u unless you buy sessions first. Kinda leaves a bad taste in your mouth about dealing with the person doesnt it?
Actually being that i didnt know he sold singles... and i planned to buy bulk IF i liked it.. i would assume he would direct me on how to like it... kinda like how a personal trainer would show you what they can do for you, not refuse to help u unless you buy sessions first. Kinda leaves a bad taste in your mouth about dealing with the person doesnt it?
TP it's like this. I am in business and I help MY clients out whenever they need my help. They pay me for the service. I personally would never ask advice from a Professional without expecting to pay for it. I have the same philosophy as Phil with regard to dealing with clients. I guess the principle is this.........You join my gym, and then get a personal trainer from another gym to do up a program for you and you paid him/her not me. You then come to my gym and ask me to show you how to do this program without expecting to pay me! I own the gym and also do personal training, it is how I earn my living and pay the bills. I can tell you I do come across this all the time and it gets up my nose. Now I am just using that as an example, I am not busting your balls. I have been doing biz w/Phil and I would not consider going anywhere else to buy LBA's or certain other lines he carries. He is a stand up guy and stands by his word and products.Actually being that i didnt know he sold singles... and i planned to buy bulk IF i liked it.. i would assume he would direct me on how to like it... kinda like how a personal trainer would show you what they can do for you, not refuse to help u unless you buy sessions first. Kinda leaves a bad taste in your mouth about dealing with the person doesnt it?
TP it's like this. I am in business and I help MY clients out whenever they need my help. They pay me for the service. I personally would never ask advice from a Professional without expecting to pay for it. I have the same philosophy as Phil with regard to dealing with clients. I guess the principle is this.........You join my gym, and then get a personal trainer from another gym to do up a program for you and you paid him/her not me. You then come to my gym and ask me to show you how to do this program without expecting to pay me! I own the gym and also do personal training, it is how I earn my living and pay the bills. I can tell you I do come across this all the time and it gets up my nose. Now I am just using that as an example, I am not busting your balls. I have been doing biz w/Phil and I would not consider going anywhere else to buy LBA's or certain other lines he carries. He is a stand up guy and stands by his word and products.
Well the way i saw it, it was more of a potential client! I even SAID i planned to buy in bulk from Phil if i liked the few bottles i bought. Would have been within a weeks time. Its more like a person asks you for advice and you show them how and explain how you could further assist them in the future. THAT is how you sell personal training, not telling the person you COULD help them if they would sign up with you, but refuse to offer any proof of HOW you could help them.
And Phil i dont appreciate the personal attack that i told you in confidence and you present the end results without stating the situation and make me look like a jackass when it is not the case. Your a lowlife backstabbing piece of shit, how bout that? Iv given you free advice in private and even noted my results on certain aspects when you asked, and never asked you to pay me for the information. I can rise above your childish bullshit. I even supported your arguement on bb.com without any previous experience in the area, simply because i DID consider you a somewhat nice guy and figured you knew a thing or two about bodybuilding, but you proved me wrong once again on the nice guy thing.
You know what.... since we are airing dirty laundry.. i WONT rise about your childish bs.. il lower my level..... i got PMs from a few members who EVERYONE here holds in high regard and respects their knowledge or any outlook into any situation, even one of which you train yourself (whose name i will NOT disclose so dont even think about this for a second)....who said your LBAs are a waste of money and time and arent even what you claim they are. So..... i guess i wont be needing your IGF laced beef amino's haha so whateva i gave up on my pro dream a long time ago, im doing this for fun and for competition because i love to compete in anything...sooooo wish me luck big guy.....
TP4U, if members here & including Phil's clients are supposedly PM'ing you saying the LBA's aren't all their claimed to be, then why did you go and order 3 bottles with the intention of buying more from Phil????????
Me personally will never go without my LBA's again.
Well the way i saw it, it was more of a potential client! I even SAID i planned to buy in bulk from Phil if i liked the few bottles i bought. Would have been within a weeks time. Its more like a person asks you for advice and you show them how and explain how you could further assist them in the future. THAT is how you sell personal training, not telling the person you COULD help them if they would sign up with you, but refuse to offer any proof of HOW you could help them.TP I do offer help and advice to those members that support me. I offer plenty of free training advice here to our community. But we are talking business now. This changes things. I like Littlemack am puzzled as to why you would not just ask Phil first. He is one of the main men behind this product. I deleted the rest of your post in my reply here because I thought it was over the top. But in direct response to your posts regarding paying for a product or service you let the horse out of the barn before you saddled it. As for the product not working......well I think you are starting to sound a little like some of the boys at BB.com with regard to LBAs not working. But hey it's your choice. All I say is you or anyone else that does not give these an honest try is doing themselves a disservice. I stand Behind Phil and The LBA's. Your personal differences between the two of you is your business. But I know Phil is a stand up guy and I will get his back if need be. He does not sell snake oil!!