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Leg training & Nausea everytime

How much cardio, not LISS, are you doing per week and what is your sustained HR during that cardio? For how long?

I have been all over the step mill and my leg days have gotten much better. My HR still sky rockets, but it recovers at least twice as fast as before hitting the SM all the time.

My RHR has dropped 5 points since using the SM like it is my job (average is 45-60mins a day).
 
Im curious if anyone else experiences nausea everytime they train legs? Have you found anything to help it reduce or rid the feeling?
Everytime I train legs with any degree of intensity I get to the point just before vomiting on my ride home from the gym. I have to close my eyes, even getting a ride from someone at certain points.
I have tried training on an empty stomach in the am but i really don't enjoy that because I'm extra weak and I still feel sick.
I have played w meal times, cut out my intra-workout, increased my rest, decreased reps etc but I still end up feeling sick if I push myself virtually at all.
Has anyone experienced this? Have you found anything to help you avoid that feeling.

Much appreciated!
No way I can do anything on an empty stomach. That's just me. Are you getting overheated.? That use to happen to me. I got too hot during legs and here came the vomit. Stopped doing legs in a hoodie. I'm lighter now. So I can get away with wearing the hoodie now. But when I was heavier I couldn't do it. I would get way too hot and had to start just wearing a t-shirt when doing legs. Although as already stated. If you're pounding legs just prepare to not feel great. The way it is.
 
Yes, I have and it has ruined my leg days for a good few months.
I found out that my blood pressure drops when doing heavy leg compounds with high intensity. I brought a bp-cuff with me to the gym one leg day, and my systolic was around 80 when it happened. I get pale, nauseaus, jittery, sweaty and it takes about 30 minutes to feel normal again. In periods where I had high blood pressure, this issue occured less.

What helped was simply arranging the sessions differently and doing the heavy quad compounds later in the session. You still get sick, but you already got through 90% of your leg workout, so the damage is limited. The second thing that helped was using as little of a valsalva maneuver as possible during heavy compounds like squats etc. For example, in a squat, I try not to brace too hard until I get to the bottom of the movement and then, coming out of the hole, only up to a certain point where it feels safe to breathe out again. Lastly, increasing rest times can also help.
This is what would happen to me when I was getting overheated during legs. I would make it home, barely, and my BP would be like 90/50. I would go lay on the bed for 2 hrs. I would feel EXHAUSTED. I weighed around 300lbs then. How I could even walk with my BP that low at that weight was amazing. But I didn't walk far. 😂
 
Im curious if anyone else experiences nausea everytime they train legs? Have you found anything to help it reduce or rid the feeling?
Everytime I train legs with any degree of intensity I get to the point just before vomiting on my ride home from the gym. I have to close my eyes, even getting a ride from someone at certain points.
I have tried training on an empty stomach in the am but i really don't enjoy that because I'm extra weak and I still feel sick.
I have played w meal times, cut out my intra-workout, increased my rest, decreased reps etc but I still end up feeling sick if I push myself virtually at all.
Has anyone experienced this? Have you found anything to help you avoid that feeling.

Much appreciated!
Might be obvious but is your BP decent?
 
Im curious if anyone else experiences nausea everytime they train legs? Have you found anything to help it reduce or rid the feeling?
Everytime I train legs with any degree of intensity I get to the point just before vomiting on my ride home from the gym. I have to close my eyes, even getting a ride from someone at certain points.
I have tried training on an empty stomach in the am but i really don't enjoy that because I'm extra weak and I still feel sick.
I have played w meal times, cut out my intra-workout, increased my rest, decreased reps etc but I still end up feeling sick if I push myself virtually at all.
Has anyone experienced this? Have you found anything to help you avoid that feeling.

Much appreciated!
A few things to look into:

Breathing: Your breathing cadence could be off. Sometimes we resort to holding our breath at the wrong part of the rep, which then generates a fast spike and drop in blood pressure (which is what might be causing your nausea). It may take some relearning, but try exhaling through the lift while maintaining your abdominal bracing.

Hydration: A wild guess here, but since you have tried working out on an empty stomach, it sounds like you might be working out in the morning (this is still applicable if you are not)? Try to get more hydrated before your leg day. This will take a bit of experimenting, but try measuring and gradually increasing your water intake before you work out. Find the volume needed to reduce nausea through trial and error. This has been an issue for a few friends.

Preworkout meal: I see that you have already toyed with this, if you are feeling expirimental try having a rice cake with peanut butter. It is enough to remove the "hollow" feeling in your stomach, but it does not cause any felt stress.

Conditioning: I see that this has been mentioned above, but I find baseline conditioning essential for my performance. The stair master a few times a week for ~15 minutes (enough to get you feeling an uncomfortable huffing) will be a huge benefit for your leg day. This personally cured my nausea, yeah I know, I know, it sucks. It will help increase the flow of oxygen to your muscles, which may help reduce the nausea feeling. V02 max shows you how much oxygen is getting transported to your muscles, and you can only increase this with cardio exercise.

Pharma aid: I am very hesitant to advise this; it has never done me wrong, but please do your own research. 10mg of Nebivolol has been an absolute godsend for my leg day performance. I have a genetically increased resting heart rate and would be very uncomfortable every leg day. After I introduced this, it felt like one of the biggest performance enhancers I have ever introduced into my routine and allowed me to focus on using my leg muscles on the movement instead of the extreme cardiovascular discomfort I felt all the time. It is a selective beta blocker that will slightly lower blood pressure, but it is very effective at controlling your heart rate and feeling of exertion. Your between-set recovery will also see a massive boost.

Acid reflux: A little bit of a wild card, but an anecdotal fix nonetheless. For those who experience acid reflux, it can absolutely cause nausea during leg day. The odd positioning and bracing that compounds put us through can highlight the heartburn. Try an OTC heartburn medication. On the flip side, you could also consider a betaine supplement during meals. It raises stomach acidity, which helps seal off your esophageal sphincter and mitigate any indigestion.

Rep scheme alteration: Everyone responds differently to how they handle low/high rep sets. There is nothing wrong with lowering the weight and going for a higher rep count. You won't be impacting growth. Ex: 600lbs for 6 reps vs 450lbs for 20. Try switching from what you are doing to the inverse. I personally am able to tolerate something like a 10-rep to failure set the best (my mental fatigue makes 20-rep sets too difficult).

Smiling while doing your routine (lol): Arnold did it for squats, I personally refuse to look insane, but here's a possible wildcard solution. https://www.goodyspowder.com/blog/science-smiling-benefits-to-pain-relief

I hope this helps, and I wish you the best of luck figuring it out. Nausea is the most uncomfortable feeling during a workout, and I hate few things more (being forced to watch the whole Twilight series with my girl is a strong contender though). Let me know if you have any questions.
 

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