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letro crushes E2 ... NOT

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Just got some labs back ... blood collected on 1/06. BioReference Labs.

Tot test: 951. (280-800)
Free test: 19.7 (7.2-23)
Estradiol: 19.9 (8-43)

HDL 37 w T chol 128

This was while:
0.25mg letro ed
200mg test-e ew (blood drawn on day 5)
(plus some mast prop)

The idea that small doses of letro crush estradiol levels in men is widely believed but just wrong. You've seen my #s, and the medical studies show only a ~60% reduction in E2 at 2.5mg letro ed.
 
Just got some labs back ... blood collected on 1/06. BioReference Labs.

Tot test: 951. (280-800)
Free test: 19.7 (7.2-23)
Estradiol: 19.9 (8-43)

HDL 37 w T chol 128

This was while:
0.25mg letro ed
200mg test-e ew (blood drawn on day 5)
(plus some mast prop)

The idea that small doses of letro crush estradiol levels in men is widely believed but just wrong. You've seen my #s, and the medical studies show only a ~60% reduction in E2 at 2.5mg letro ed.

2 questions. How long you been using the letro for and is it tabs or research liquid chem?
 
Just got some labs back ... blood collected on 1/06. BioReference Labs.

Tot test: 951. (280-800)
Free test: 19.7 (7.2-23)
Estradiol: 19.9 (8-43)

HDL 37 w T chol 128

This was while:
0.25mg letro ed
200mg test-e ew (blood drawn on day 5)
(plus some mast prop)

The idea that small doses of letro crush estradiol levels in men is widely believed but just wrong. You've seen my #s, and the medical studies show only a ~60% reduction in E2 at 2.5mg letro ed.

I think the only letro that would do that would be HG which is crazy $$. I have taken UG at 2.5 ED for 2 months and do not get any drier than I would on a dose of adex.
 
One thing I do know is that letro crushed the SHIT out of my left nip gyno (I did a Phera/Superdrol cycle in 08).
 
Interesting. Your cholesterol levels arent that far off either. Your HDL is a little low, but not way low.
 
Not complaining about letro

2 questions. How long you been using the letro for and is it tabs or research liquid chem?

I like my numbers (although the test could be a bit higher!). My point is that letro is not some nuclear weapon on E2, as some people believe, just slightly/somewhat stronger than arimidex or aromasin. I like letro as much as a-dex or a-sin.

Here is the relevant study in men. 2.5mg ed lowered E2 by about half. Not 95%. And these guys weren't taking test, HCG, etc.
Comparative assessment in young and elderly men of... [J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2005] - PubMed result

When I was taking aromasin 12.5mg/day (from drugstore), my E2 was 10 points higher with similar TT.

In answer to your questions:
- 40 days on letro
- research chem (but it feels well dosed)

My guess is that 2.5mg letro from drugstore would put me around 15 on E2. This is based on the study. I would run about 35 w/o any AI.
 

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