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Let's discuss Saccharomyces boulardii. (Thanks Dante)

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No previous experience with it, but as someone who has persistent stomach issues I'm curious to try it out and see if it helps alleviate some of the issues I have.

From a general health perspective though, it seems like an easy (and cheap from what I can see) supplement to add to one's arsenal.
 
Dante mentioned it in the context of Bumstead's IgA nephropathy. So I'm gonna focus on how it relates to kidney health.

First thing to note is that "S. boulardii is sometimes used as a probiotic with the purpose of introducing beneficial active cultures into the large and small intestines, as well as conferring protection against pathogenic microorganisms in the host" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saccharomyces_boulardii)

Now, how does this related to kidney function? Well, it turns out that certain bacteria in the gut microbiome can produce uremic toxin, i.e. compounds that need to be metabolized and/or excreted by the kidneys and can cause (mainly cardiovascular) damage and inflammation if renal clearance is insufficient. To the extent that probiotics can alter the composition of the gut microbiome, they could reduce uremic toxin production.

Probiotics are the focus of a thorough investigation as a natural biotreatment due to their various health-promoting effects and inherent ability to fight specific diseases including chronic kidney disease (CKD). Indeed, intestinal microbiota has recently emerged as an important player in the progression and complications of CKD. Because many of the multifactorial physiological functions of probiotics are highly strain specific, preselection of appropriate probiotic strains based on their expression of functional biomarkers is critical. The interest in developing new research initiatives on probiotics in CKD have increased over the last decade with the goal of fully exploring their therapeutic potentials. The efficacy of probiotics to decrease uremic toxin production and to improve renal function has been investigated in in vitro models and in various animal and human CKD studies. However to date, the quality of intervention trials investigating this novel CKD therapy is still lacking. This review outlines potential mechanisms of action and efficacy of probiotics as a new CKD management tool, with a particular emphasis on uremic toxin production and inflammation.
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In addition to altering the composition of the gut microbiome, S. boulardii also increases the immune response to certain toxins produced by bacteria, thereby further reducing uremic toxin levels.

In addition to its acting as an immune stimulant, S. boulardii also has an anti-inflammatory effect in the intestines. It's pretty complicated, see (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3296087/) for a summary.

With that in mind, let's look at the effect of S. boulardii on the specific case of IgA nepropathy, and autoimmune kidney disease. As Dante has posted, there could potentially be a beneficial effect of S. boulardii in this disease;

Immunoglobulin A nephropathy (IgAN) is associated with mucosal IgA defect. Probiotics regulate specific and innate immunity. We evaluated the effect of Saccharomyces boulardii on experimental IgAN in mice. Four groups of BALB/c mice (eight for each) were formed. Group 1 was immunized by oral poliovirus vaccine (OPV) at 0, 14, and 28 days. Group 2 was also given S. boulardii in addition to OPV. Group 3 was given only S. boulardii, whereas group 4 received no treatment. At week 6, after urine and serum samples were obtained for urinalysis and serum creatinine and IgA measurements, all animals were sacrificed to get their kidneys for histopathological evaluation. Urinalysis and serum creatinine levels were normal in all groups. Serum IgA level was increased only in group 1. Whereas group 1 had mesangial proliferation, histology was normal in the other groups. Predominant IgA deposition was universal in group 1, whereas it was either not present or minimal in other groups. Three mice in group 1 also had C3 deposition, which was absent in other groups. Electron microscopy revealed mesangial proliferation, matrix expansion, focal glomerular basement membrane thickening and electron-dense deposits in group 1 only, whereas the other groups were normal. In conclusion, enteral S. boulardii prevented OPV-induced IgAN in mice.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18446380

Thus, S. boulardii prevented the development of vaccine induced IgA nephropathy in mice. it's hard to say if this can be extrapolated to the case of non-vaccine induced IgA nephropathy in humans. But it's certainly worth a shot.

There is certainly good reason to suspect that S. boulardii could prevent flare ups of IgA nephropathy. Though the pathophysiology of the disease is poorly understood, it is becoming increasingly clear that the accumulation of aberrently glycosylated IgA1 (which leads to polymerization that fucks of the kidney's glomeruli) is "likely to be a consequence of abnormal systemic responses to mucosally encountered antigens" (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17093066)


In IgA nephropathy (IgAN), serum IgA1 with abnormal O-glycosylation deposits in the glomerular mesangium. The underlying mechanism of this IgA1 O-glycosylation abnormality is poorly understood, but recent evidence argues against a generic defect in B cell glycosyltransferases, suggesting that only a subpopulation of IgA1-committed B cells are affected. For investigation of whether the site of antigen encounter influences IgA1 O-glycosylation, the O-glycosylation of serum IgA1 antibodies against a systemic antigen, tetanus toxoid (TT), and a mucosal antigen, Helicobacter pylori (HP), was studied in patients with IgAN and control subjects. Serum IgA1 was purified from cohorts of patients with IgAN and control subjects with HP infection and after systemic TT immunization. The IgA1 samples were applied to HP- and TT-coated immunoplates to immobilize specific antibodies, and IgA1 O-glycosylation profiles were assessed by binding of the O-glycan-specific lectin Vicia villosa using a modified ELISA technique. Although total serum IgA1 had raised lectin binding in IgAN, the O-glycosylation of the specific IgA1 antibodies to TT and HP did not differ between patients and control subjects. In both groups, IgA1 anti-HP had higher lectin binding than IgA1 anti-TT. This study demonstrates that IgA1 O-glycosylation normally varies in different immune responses and that patients produce the full spectrum of IgA1 O-glycoforms. IgA1 with high lectin binding was produced in response to mucosal HP infection in all subjects. The raised circulating level of this type of IgA1 in IgAN is likely to be a consequence of abnormal systemic responses to mucosally encountered antigens rather than a fundamental defect in B cell O-glycosylation pathways.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17093066

S. boulardii could potentially remove some of the offending antigens (by removing producing bacteria from gut microbiome) from the gut and/or modulate the body's immune response in a way that reduces the production of the specific type of antibody that leads to kidney dysfunction.

As mentioned in one of the studies posted by Knight9, S. boulardii also has benefits in gastrointestinal disorders but I'm not gonna get into that. In terms of kidney health, I don't think it is an essential supplement for bodybuilders. For the few guys with IgA nephropathy on the other hand, it has a lot of promise.
 
Has anyone used this probiotic and gotten terrible insomnia? Probiotics aren't typically known to cause this, but I purchased the Jarrow formula in the interest of improved gut health and I can't seem to sleep anymore.
 
Has anyone used this probiotic and gotten terrible insomnia? Probiotics aren't typically known to cause this, but I purchased the Jarrow formula in the interest of improved gut health and I can't seem to sleep anymore.
Interesting you say this.

I just added this not too long ago and I have been having sleep issues.

Do you take it in the morning like Dante recommended?
 
Interesting you say this.

I just added this not too long ago and I have been having sleep issues.

Do you take it in the morning like Dante recommended?
I do, and only one capsule. I always try to get the most from the least. Haven't noticed any better BM's yet either.
 
I do, and only one capsule. I always try to get the most from the least. Haven't noticed any better BM's yet either.
I’ve been doing 2 in the morning like recommended. I did not add the other probiotic at night time though.
 
Is @MyNameIsJeff still here or under a different board name?

Just wondering, as I feel he was a knowledgeable board member and haven't seen him around....hence a possible different name?

Figured i'd ask....has he been banned? That may answer my question if he has been, lol. Anyway, maybe he is posting elsewhere or just doing other life 'stuff,' lol.
 
hes a great guy pretty much saved my life, i talk to him semi frequently still, we live close, know a lot of same people and have mutual friends in RL, he just sent me a new strain of mushrooms that are supposedly just as good if not better than the astragulus for kidney health, guys on top of his shit
 
hes a great guy pretty much saved my life, i talk to him semi frequently still, we live close, know a lot of same people and have mutual friends in RL, he just sent me a new strain of mushrooms that are supposedly just as good if not better than the astragulus for kidney health, guys on top of his shit
And what mushrooms are these? Maybe post that up in the other thread on that topic so we don't derail this?
 
And what mushrooms are these? Maybe post that up in the other thread on that topic so we don't derail this?
pm me and i will send you the convo and info. im not posting state of the art discoveries on here anymore because most members are really pretentious and dont give a shit, now if i post a pic with DT or some of the UFC guys I am in network and work with , completely diff ball game, I've done it a few times here and people treated me TOTALLY different after, which was odd because I am extremely articulate and eloquent, but back in the day I joined this board as a member of organized crime and a lot of people refuse to let that go oddly enough. I am really close with mods and a few og members from back and day on social media, these are the cats i usually bounce this info off. and a few mods here
 

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