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Levels of "Shut down"

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I was wondering if we could get a conversation going about your guys's opinion whether the body experiences certain levels of "suppression" upon introducing exogenous hormones. Or if you think being you'll always reach 100% shut down weather than be from 250mg of test, or 2g of test.
 
Look at guys on TRT. Their LH and FSH will come back pretty much non existent. So 250 is more than enough to completely shut you down.

*EDIT* Although one thing I do notice is that when I blast instead of my normal TRT dose my testicle actually shrinks but when on just a TRT dose it stays pretty good size..not sure why..
 
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Look at guys on TRT. Their LH and FSH will come back pretty much non existent. So 250 is more than enough to completely shut you down.

*EDIT* Although one thing I do notice is that when I blast instead of my normal TRT dose my testicle actually shrinks but when on just a TRT dose it stays pretty good size..not sure why..

Im one of those people that reacts very sharply to test. All truth be told... on good test I respond better than to Deca.. tren or dbol.

On 250mg test e per wk if its real and at least 80% I shut down and my balls shrink and I get acne all over my back and it creeps on my chest. However... I tolerate androgens much differently for some reason. I need a lot more mgs and really cant justify the need to do so.

I initially bloat on test, but after a few weeks it depletes and im left with a very nice medium of muscle vs bloat. Androgens seem to carry way more sides than benefits for my intent.

I cant wait to get back to the days where I run real good test at 750mg for 20 weeks. Makes me a beast!
 
My B's shrink wether its a 200mg/week cruise or 1200mg/week combo blast....higher amounts require more estrogen control of course, but I think shut down is shut down, but no real proof of this!!
 
I dont think there are levels of supression. if you have exogenous androgens in your body you will be suppressed.

i know when I was tested for hrt I tested at 214 total testosterone. they gave me a shot of 200mg test and two weeks later I tested at 150. So that one shot of 200mg stopped what little natural test production I had.

i remember a study that showed 200mg of deca supressed natural test production for well over a month.
 
Look at guys on TRT. Their LH and FSH will come back pretty much non existent. So 250 is more than enough to completely shut you down.

*EDIT* Although one thing I do notice is that when I blast instead of my normal TRT dose my testicle actually shrinks but when on just a TRT dose it stays pretty good size..not sure why..

This. Shut down is shut down.
 
I've never understood the thought process of higher doses shutting you down more, as soon as you go over what your body naturally produces it will shut down.

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I've never understood the thought process of higher doses shutting you down more, as soon as you go over what your body naturally produces it will shut down.

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X10... There is no, this steroid shuts you down harder or this much will kill ur natural production faster...
 
Then how come people take longer to recover from tren compared to test?
 
Then how come people take longer to recover from tren compared to test?

Purely an assumption... I have recovered way faster from a prop/tren cycle than a cyp/EQ cycle... A lot of recovery is genetic
 
I remember DOGGCRAPP arguing this issue with Bobo from Anabolicminds a while back. DC was saying something along the lines of that the use of hcg or clomid, etc... (don't quote me on this) during the cycle sends intermittent signals to the hpta which makes it much easier to bounce back as well as conceive.
 
Where are our smart degree and doctor around here lol? So, we know anabolics shut down natural test production. However, does that mean it shuts down sperm production?
 
Where are our smart degree and doctor around here lol? So, we know anabolics shut down natural test production. However, does that mean it shuts down sperm production?
Yes it does. After about 8 weeks you are on male birth control.
 
Yeah I've wondered how the hundreds if not thousands across the world still knock up their GF or wife after being on or mid way through a cycle???
 
Yeah I've wondered how the hundreds if not thousands across the world still knock up their GF or wife after being on or mid way through a cycle???

AAS suppress sperm production substantially, but the exact degree varies from individual to indivual. Some guys will have practically non-existent sperm counts. Others will be suboptimal, but plenty enough to get the job done if their partner is ovulating.

The test-based male birth control regimens now add a progestin in order to completely suppress sperm production. Relying on test alone is not considered to be effective for most guys.
 

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