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[1loco]

yeah lesnar is a unskilled redneck who beat the piss out of mir twice now. national champion wrestler etc.

fedor does have something to prove.

Uh... News flash my friend... Lesnar LOST to Mir the first fight so NO.. Brock didnt beat the piss out of Mir two times.

Now again im not getting into this argument again but... i will say this.

Brock was handed the HW title. He is Danas show whore.
Lets look at what BROCK has proven...
He has 5 fights. 2 against ONE guy. Already LOST one fight...
So, Big bad Brock is 4-1.
Wow... he was a good college wrestler... ok. Wow he was a good ENTERTAINER at the WWE. ... Ok.
Well, thats about it my friends.

Now... a little about what FEDOR has accomplished:
Fedor Emelianenko is the only fighter that has beaten:

5 different X UFC champions
Coleman
Randleman
Sylvia
Nog
Arlovski

4 kick boxing champions
Schilt
Hunt
Goodridge
HMC

6 different MMA champions
Coleman
Randleman
Sylvia
Nog
Goodridge
Arlovski

2 silver olympic medalist
Lindland
Ogawa

1 ADCC open weight champion
Arona

Honorable mention
Mirko Crocop
3 time K-1 finalist
2005 GP finalist
2006 GP winner Post Fedor fight

There is only 1 fighter that has gone 30+ fights that has
- Never lost a decision.
- Never been sub'd
- Never been knocked out

He is the only fighter that has ever won 5 different mma championships.- Wamma HW belt
- Pride HW belt
- Pride Grand Prix tournament
- Rings king of kings tournament
- Rings world class tournament

All while finishing 76% of his opponents.
A current 25 fight win streak
With 22 victories in the first round
4 victories in the first minute
12 victories in the first 2 minutes

Yeah man, i can see why Fedor would have something to prove

 

[Newman]

Ahhh

Just another statistic for Fedor.
Why do these guys automatically think just because they are big and strong that they will be good at MMA or what not.
I mean, look at Brock. He is big and strong... but dumb as shit and has no skill.

And that's why one day Brock will be just another notch on Fedors' gun belt...

 

[Jappy's Boy]

Everyone and i do mean everyone is great until they get punched in the face, i see this everyday and until we see how he reacts to that...

true, so true. i've seen many beginners who are terrifying on the focus mitts and the heavy bag. but, they fall to pieces in sparring.

for the life of me, i do not understand why you brockstars say he beat mir twice?? mir handled lesnar the first time. he kept his cool under a barage of girl punches, and took lesnar's leg when the opportunity presented itself. look yall, there is no such thing as "getting lucky" in fighting. that's bullshit. you're not supposed to leave yourself open PERIOD. if you do, and you get stopped, then your opponent siezed the moment. it's not luck.

all that being said, lesnar fucked mir up in the second fight! and yes, i was sorely disapointed.

 

[makaveli25]

yeah lesnar is a unskilled redneck who beat the piss out of mir twice now. national champion wrestler etc.

fedor does have something to prove.

Uh... News flash my friend... Lesnar LOST to Mir the first fight so NO.. Brock didnt beat the piss out of Mir two times.

Now again im not getting into this argument again but... i will say this.

Brock was handed the HW title. He is Danas show whore.
Lets look at what BROCK has proven...
He has 5 fights. 2 against ONE guy. Already LOST one fight...
So, Big bad Brock is 4-1.
Wow... he was a good college wrestler... ok. Wow he was a good ENTERTAINER at the WWE. ... Ok.
Well, thats about it my friends.

Now... a little about what FEDOR has accomplished:
Fedor Emelianenko is the only fighter that has beaten:

5 different X UFC champions
Coleman
Randleman
Sylvia
Nog
Arlovski

4 kick boxing champions
Schilt
Hunt
Goodridge
HMC

6 different MMA champions
Coleman
Randleman
Sylvia
Nog
Goodridge
Arlovski

2 silver olympic medalist
Lindland
Ogawa

1 ADCC open weight champion
Arona

Honorable mention
Mirko Crocop
3 time K-1 finalist
2005 GP finalist
2006 GP winner Post Fedor fight

There is only 1 fighter that has gone 30+ fights that has
- Never lost a decision.
- Never been sub'd
- Never been knocked out

He is the only fighter that has ever won 5 different mma championships.- Wamma HW belt
- Pride HW belt
- Pride Grand Prix tournament
- Rings king of kings tournament
- Rings world class tournament

All while finishing 76% of his opponents.
A current 25 fight win streak
With 22 victories in the first round
4 victories in the first minute
12 victories in the first 2 minutes

Yeah man, i can see why Fedor would have something to prove

your nuts brock was beating the fing piss out of mir in that first fight. he took him down and was pounding him out. If he didn't do those little sissy hammer fists he would of had the fight stopped. He made a very rookie mistake and miror got lucky and took advantage of it. But up until that point he was making miror look like school girl. Brock is the biggest fastest strongest guy in the sport. How is that not talent. In the second fight he finally learned how to effectively strike when he is in someones guard. The guy picks up new things everytime you see him fight. Hes got sick cardio for a guy his size he proved that in the herring fight. Your obvisouly a fedor nut hugger. Fedor got offered 30 mil for 5 fights. He is ducking brock. Even tito decided to come back to the ufc because he knows he face the best compettion. The ufc has the ten best fighters in there stable for all the weight classes. I think randy could even beat fedor

 

[1loco]

Come on man.... Did you see him become the first person to not only beat, but dominate Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic? Did you see him almost get knocked out by Kazuyuki Fujita, only to finish the fight seconds later? Did you see him get suplexed by Kevin Randleman, possibly the most spectacular head drop in MMA history, only to arm bar him 30 seconds later? Did you see him knock out Andrei Arlovski in mid-air? Did you see him dispose of Tim Sylvia in 36 seconds? How about his wins over Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira during Nog’s prime? The man is the dominant heavyweight on the planet and has been so for nearly 10 years.
Why do so many people put there faith in this overgrown muscle head that Dana obviously pimped out just to sell PPV tickets.
All this stuff that Fedor has done are FACTS. You cant contest FACTS. Brock has done NOTHING ... and i mean NOTHING except beat up on some dudes Dana knew he would beat the shit out of. Hell he even LOST to Mir. Yeah... i know u know, he beat Mir and Mir got lucky... SO WHAT... FACT IS MIR WON.
Thats the name of the game right? Win?
Fedor is 30-1 ... when Brock cant even get out of the gate without a loss within 4 fights. Gezzz people just amaze me. This just goes to show how media and marketing can buy ANYONE ... including the fans.

 

[1loco]

yeah lesnar is a unskilled redneck who beat the piss out of mir twice now. national champion wrestler etc.

fedor does have something to prove.


your nuts brock was beating the fing piss out of mir in that first fight. he took him down and was pounding him out. If he didn't do those little sissy hammer fists he would of had the fight stopped. He made a very rookie mistake and miror got lucky and took advantage of it. But up until that point he was making miror look like school girl. Brock is the biggest fastest strongest guy in the sport. How is that not talent. In the second fight he finally learned how to effectively strike when he is in someones guard. The guy picks up new things everytime you see him fight. Hes got sick cardio for a guy his size he proved that in the herring fight. Your obvisouly a fedor nut hugger. Fedor got offered 30 mil for 5 fights. He is ducking brock. Even tito decided to come back to the ufc because he knows he face the best compettion. The ufc has the ten best fighters in there stable for all the weight classes. I think randy could even beat fedor

Your obviously a Brock whore ball sniffer bro... call me a Fedor nut hugger? Well at least i have a reason. He is 30-1 ya know..not 4 -1 after redneck wollering a couple of guys half his size. Gezzz man. Damn.
I could care less what you say about the Brock and Mir fight... the name of the game is WIN. Win is what Mir did. Period. Mistakes are made and the BETTER fighter takes advantage. Mir did just that.
You mentioned Fedor got offered 30 mil to fight in the UFC... Well friend... Fedor ALREADY makes 50+ million just in endorsements overseas. Fedor can call his own life the way it is now. Signing with Dana might look good with that 30 million offer but... he would have to give up his EA Sports sponcership. He would also have to give Dana the right to use his name and brand even after his contract ran out... and Dana could do what ever he wanted to with it. Not happenin bro. You mention Tito? WTF?
Tito sucked Dana ass once again .. and Geeee i wonder why? HE DIDNT HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO GO! He had to suck Dana ass .. either that or take his porn star girl friend and head to Europe to fight. Who would sign him over there? Everyone knows how much of a fucking cry baby he is.
Your posts are useless. The simple fact that Fedor is 30-1 coupled with all the people he has beaten proves he fights to fight. Brock is fighting for a pay check. He is getting to use his "entertainer" skills while Dana pimps his ass like all the rest of the UFC.

 

[makaveli25]

fedor is an amazing fighter i will give him that. hes fighting cans though. Arloski, was gonna fight barnett, mirko has been getting owned in the cage soo who cares about that randelman hes a has been. none of these guys would be top 3 in the ufc. Fedor does have a chance at beating brock but come on hes fighting second tier pros. Brock nocked out cotour enuf said!!

 

[1loco]

fedor is an amazing fighter i will give him that. hes fighting cans though. Arloski, was gonna fight barnett, mirko has been getting owned in the cage soo who cares about that randelman hes a has been. none of these guys would be top 3 in the ufc. Fedor does have a chance at beating brock but come on hes fighting second tier pros. Brock nocked out cotour enuf said!!

Ha LOL

You name all these guys that you say are has beens.. then you try to prove your point by Brock beating Couture?

That my friend is the pot calling the kettle black.

Couture is as has as had been can be my friend.

But hey i understand... without the "he fought all has beens" the Fedor doubters wouldnt have anything else to base there argument on. God knows they cant base it on STATISTICS and FACTS... Because well... Fedor is 30-1.
What was Brocks record again? Haaaa.. yeah i remember now

 

[pumpt73]

yeah lesnar is a unskilled redneck who beat the piss out of mir twice now. national champion wrestler etc.

fedor does have something to prove. if you want to be known as the best then you have to beat the best. which he will never be being in strikeforce. he is dodging the "real" competition.

btw i didnt mean he is scared of lesnar but just scared to lose to lesnar

its like someone goin to europe to play basketball when they have offers in the NBA...

Opinions vary. That is all Im saying. Yeah he was a national champion wrestler, but it's like you act as if Fedor hasn't accomplished anything. To each their own.

 

[Malic777.com]

for all the people who say fedor fights only hasbeens:

who the hell should he have fought???? what champions did he "Evade"???? is there ANYBODY he didnt beat so far? ANYBODY??

i dont know what some people are talking about...if i had a fantasy list of fighters to put up against fedor i would pretty much leave the list AS IS...

for gods sake they even put him up against freaks like schilt and hong man choi when they ran out of regular PRIDE and UFC champs...

you want to know why fedor has very little fights lately? there isnt anybody else left to fight who is worth a crap...

there simply is nobody else...brock vs. fedor will not even come to be because brock will lose badly to some mediocre heavy weight anyway and ill probably die from gloating lol so it does not even matter...alex

 

[joshbarnett]

c'mon now! did you watch the first fight against mir? brock was beating the shit out of him til he made a stupid mistake! i never said fedor wasnt good or didnt have a resume. i did say he went to a league that is not even close to the talent the ufc has and therefore he is dodging the "real" fighters by doing so. you cant be considered the best until you fight the best and not be in some BS wannabe ufc over in europe...

 

[MrPump]

As much as I want to say that Brock is too big, too strong, and has an amazing ground game, there is one question...

Can he take a punch!

Look, Fedor would most likely have to catch Brock to win the fight, however Fedor has a tendancy to do just that...catch who ever, when ever... The dude is a freaking machine.

Advanatages:
Experience: Fedor
Strenght: Brock
Speed: iffy... Fedor has some fast fucking hands though
Althetism(sp): Brock
GnP: Fedor (watch the Nog fights)
Wrestling: Brock
Power: Brock
Striking: Fedor
Chin: Fedor
Cardio: Im taking Fedor...but debatable...

Either way you look at it...its a toss up. And as my coach always said, when all things are equal, the one with the best cardio always wins!

 

[pumpt73]

As much as I want to say that Brock is too big, too strong, and has an amazing ground game, there is one question...

Can he take a punch!

Look, Fedor would most likely have to catch Brock to win the fight, however Fedor has a tendancy to do just that...catch who ever, when ever... The dude is a freaking machine.

Advanatages:
Experience: Fedor
Strenght: Brock
Speed: iffy... Fedor has some fast fucking hands though
Althetism(sp): Brock
GnP: Fedor (watch the Nog fights)
Wrestling: Brock
Power: Brock
Striking: Fedor
Chin: Fedor
Cardio: Im taking Fedor...but debatable...

Either way you look at it...its a toss up. And as my coach always said, when all things are equal, the one with the best cardio always wins!

I like this breakdown, but Fedor may not look the part, but the man is every bit as powerful and strong. That's what makes the man so deceptive. Fedor's hands are superfast and he punches extremely hard. Fedor can take someone's best on the chin and still keep coming. Fedor's composure is unmatched. Whenver he's been in trouble, he doesn't waiver or get frightened.

Im sorry barnett, but how the hell can you sit there and be all over one guys nuts and not give an MMA legend his due??? Again, I won't take away what Lesnar has done, but how the hell can you deny what Fedor has accomplished???

Yup, he's defeated "has beens" according to you, but during the time he was fighting those "has beens" those fighters were very relevant in MMA. The UFC HW division IS NOT what everyone thinks it is. It's not that deep. Carwin, Velasquez, Nog (who Fedor has handled TWICE), Couture (who Im sorry, doesn't have many fights left), and Lesnar.

I will agree with you about the first Mir fight. Lesnar got screwed. He wasn't even warned for punching to the back of the head, he was stopped and deducted, and that was BS. I hate to break it to you, but when Pride was up and running it was WIDELY considered THE TOP MMA PROMOTION IN THE WORLD!!!!! So yes, Fedor WAS beating the best in the World and still doesn't have a damn thing to prove to anyone. Not to mention, Lesnar still HAS NOT fought anyone as complete as Fedor.

I can understand being a fan, but damn man, you amaze me as to how glib you are about the whole damn topic.

 

[joshbarnett]

fedor is arguably the best pound for pound fighter-no doubting this but until he faces the best you cant say he is the best. he lost to Tsuyoshi "TK" Kohsaka! lesnar lost to mir and anyone who saw that fight knows that he kicked mir's ass until he made a mistake. so they each have a loss (even though lesnar shouldnt have lost the first bout with mir). i would say mir is a better opponent then kohsaka but thats just me...

 

[pumpt73]

fedor is arguably the best pound for pound fighter-no doubting this but until he faces the best you cant say he is the best. he lost to Tsuyoshi "TK" Kohsaka! lesnar lost to mir and anyone who saw that fight knows that he kicked mir's ass until he made a mistake. so they each have a loss (even though lesnar shouldnt have lost the first bout with mir). i would say mir is a better opponent then kohsaka but thats just me...

Did you actually see the "loss" to Khosaka???? Khosaka didn't beat him, it was a damn doctor stoppage due to a cut. In the rematch, Khosaka was schooled.

Fedor has NEVER been Decisioned, KO'd, TKO'd or Submitted, and he's fought many an opponent that had the ability to do so. You come off as a Lesnar "fanboy", and there's nothing wrong with that, but you can't even give the man his due which is sad.

And you basically just contradicted yourself by saying that Fedor is arguabally the best pound for pound fighter in the World no doubt, then saying until he fights the best, I can't call him the best. Hmmmmmm......

Yea, in my opinion, it's Lesnar that MUST beat Fedor, not the other way around.

 

[joshbarnett]

hey pumpt73..

like 1loco said: a win is a win and a loss is a loss.. whether fedor loss from a cut, or not "its still a loss". i cant wait for this fight 2 eventually happen, because then I will rub it in all your faces when Lesner whipps his ass.

Im done with the thread until then..

 

[groundnpound]

true, so true. i've seen many beginners who are terrifying on the focus mitts and the heavy bag. but, they fall to pieces in sparring.

for the life of me, i do not understand why you brockstars say he beat mir twice?? mir handled lesnar the first time. he kept his cool under a barage of girl punches, and took lesnar's leg when the opportunity presented itself. look yall, there is no such thing as "getting lucky" in fighting. that's bullshit. you're not supposed to leave yourself open PERIOD. if you do, and you get stopped, then your opponent siezed the moment. it's not luck.

all that being said, lesnar fucked mir up in the second fight! and yes, i was sorely disapointed.

i was dissapointed to,but did you see in in the second round when lesnar had mir against the fence and mir brought that knee up like uriah faber does,that knee landed hard and there was a link somewhere,where they showed it in slow motion and you can see where lesnar's body goes limp for a split second then they both go down and lesnar lands on top of mir and i think he's lucky that he landed on top the way he did and then regained himself and went on to finish the fight. you got to give mir some credit for taking all those shots to the face in the first round and then landing that knee in the second.lesnar is a beast know doubt but i would still like to see a third fight.

 

[pumpt73]

hey pumpt73..

like 1loco said: a win is a win and a loss is a loss.. whether fedor loss from a cut, or not "its still a loss". i cant wait for this fight 2 eventually happen, because then I will rub it in all your faces when Lesner whipps his ass.

Im done with the thread until then..

Very true that a win is a win, and a loss is a loss, and yet again, you contradict yourself. In multiple posts in this thread you've made mention on how Lesnar got screwed over, this and that. Well, he still got subbed. Unlike Fedor who had to have a doctor stop the fight before he embarrassed TK, which he eventually did. Im a Lesnar fan and Im a Fedor fan. I don't care who wins and who loses.

"I will rub it in all your faces when Lesnar whipps his ass...", wow, I had no clue I was back in Junior High School. If Fedor wins, I will act the same way he does when he wins a fight. Gracious and humble. Not like an 8 year old kid doing his "nah nah nah nah nah" to people. Good Lord man, grow up.

 

[makaveli25]

Ha LOL

You name all these guys that you say are has beens.. then you try to prove your point by Brock beating Couture?

That my friend is the pot calling the kettle black.

Couture is as has as had been can be my friend.

But hey i understand... without the "he fought all has beens" the Fedor doubters wouldnt have anything else to base there argument on. God knows they cant base it on STATISTICS and FACTS... Because well... Fedor is 30-1.
What was Brocks record again? Haaaa.. yeah i remember now

How the hell can you honestly call Couture a has been. You must not watch any ufc! That is the dumbest thing I have heard in awhile. Ya hes old but the guy completely dominated the last 3-4 guys he fough before getting caught with Brock lunch pale fist

 

[joshbarnett]

pumpt73-relax, i am just fn around on here but i still feel lesnar will win and i pray that they get fedor to fight in the near future!