Looking for some advice, guidance

[Excells]

Hello fellow PM members, So im looking at getting back into the swing of the things last year I was involved in a bad car accident and damaged my back and tore my ACL, So in short lost alot of muscle and gained fat. FML. Since i've been on HRT doing 200mg weekly of test C. Ive been back full swing in the gym and dieting hard loosing some weight and putting on small muscle gains. Now im looking at start using some “real gear” to help speed up the process. Im debating on getting back on tren to help speed it up and help lose some fat and get back alot of my lost muscle. There is where im I need of some guidance. Would you guys suggest using anything other then tren? Ive been around the game and have experience with many other “supplements”. I know tren is always the most toxic but most effective in kick starting progress. Ive thought about mast but unfortunately im pretty fluffy at the moment and not sure if its worth using at this time. Thanks in advance for any advice. X

 

[Brocksamson2.0]

Hello fellow PM members, So im looking at getting back into the swing of the things last year I was involved in a bad car accident and damaged my back and tore my ACL, So in short lost alot of muscle and gained fat. FML. Since i've been on HRT doing 200mg weekly of test C. Ive been back full swing in the gym and dieting hard loosing some weight and putting on small muscle gains. Now im looking at start using some “real gear” to help speed up the process. Im debating on getting back on tren to help speed it up and help lose some fat and get back alot of my lost muscle. There is where im I need of some guidance. Would you guys suggest using anything other then tren? Ive been around the game and have experience with many other “supplements”. I know tren is always the most toxic but most effective in kick starting progress. Ive thought about mast but unfortunately im pretty fluffy at the moment and not sure if its worth using at this time. Thanks in advance for any advice. X

Get your diet locked down and leaned out further BEFORE getting on more hormones. You'd be amazed at how good you can look on just 200mg test and a solid training plan/diet. Id stay away from tren for right now. Post pictures if you really think youre at a place to start "real gear"

 

[bbxtreme]

Hello fellow PM members, So im looking at getting back into the swing of the things last year I was involved in a bad car accident and damaged my back and tore my ACL, So in short lost alot of muscle and gained fat. FML. Since i've been on HRT doing 200mg weekly of test C. Ive been back full swing in the gym and dieting hard loosing some weight and putting on small muscle gains. Now im looking at start using some “real gear” to help speed up the process. Im debating on getting back on tren to help speed it up and help lose some fat and get back alot of my lost muscle. There is where im I need of some guidance. Would you guys suggest using anything other then tren? Ive been around the game and have experience with many other “supplements”. I know tren is always the most toxic but most effective in kick starting progress. Ive thought about mast but unfortunately im pretty fluffy at the moment and not sure if its worth using at this time. Thanks in advance for any advice. X

You’ve been here since 2017 man. Glad to see you’re getting back after it, but we need some stats and history to best give any input.

Jumping to tren after a long time off is usually not an ideal approach IMO. You’ll also want to have up to date health testing- bloodwork, vitals, cardiac etc.

All that aside though- diet off ALL the fat and get peeled. Then do a controlled rebound back up with responsible cycles once you’ve cleared all health stuff.

 

[FUTURE25]

What’s your previous experience? Regardless I would save the tren bro, there’s so many other options you can go before tren.
Unless you are competing I would personally save it.
What’s wrong with
Test + anavar
Test+ winstrol (for some)
Test + GW 50156
Test +GH
The list goes on and on my friend…

Tren is my devil and we only dance every once in a while …

 

[KingOfSushi]

This is a personal decision. What drugs you’re comfortable using is up to you. I’m not even really sure what your question is.

 

[mexbeast]

Just because you are "fluffy" don't mean you can't use mast, in fact mast will create a better environment for fat loss

 

[TheOtherOne55]

Feel like we've seen a lot of these, "im back after blah blah blah" type threads lately.
And the advice tends to be alll the same.

Step 1 - get back into a decent rhythm of gym and your nutrtion on point. If you are not healed enough to train hard there is 0 reason to go and add other variables to the mix. Get your motivation back and eat good + trt. That is enough.
Step 2 - once you are fulled healed you actually need a plan of attack. I dont think you have a "what gear should I run" question, i think this is a "what actually am i doing? Am i trying to grow? Am i lean enough to do that? What am i trying to do"

Aside from that, I would skip the tren. You can get mostly everything you need from test and GH honestly. Especially if you dont have any crazy physique goals and juust want to regain what you lost.

 

[pimpman]

Feel like we've seen a lot of these, "im back after blah blah blah" type threads lately.
And the advice tends to be alll the same.

Step 1 - get back into a decent rhythm of gym and your nutrtion on point. If you are not healed enough to train hard there is 0 reason to go and add other variables to the mix. Get your motivation back and eat good + trt. That is enough.
Step 2 - once you are fulled healed you actually need a plan of attack. I dont think you have a "what gear should I run" question, i think this is a "what actually am i doing? Am i trying to grow? Am i lean enough to do that? What am i trying to do"

Aside from that, I would skip the tren. You can get mostly everything you need from test and GH honestly. Especially if you dont have any crazy physique goals and juust want to regain what you lost.

Ive been around the game and have experience with many other “supplements”. I know tren is always the most toxic but most effective in kick starting progress


Am I confused? because from what he writes. He stating he has experience with supplements and knows how trend works. So just sounds like he want to be convinced into using tren. I don’t mean to sound like a d**k to the OP but we get this a lot where they want to hear yes use xyz. And every suggest NO they end saying I’m use it anyways.

 

[Excells]

Ive been around the game and have experience with many other “supplements”. I know tren is always the most toxic but most effective in kick starting progress


Am I confused? because from what he writes. He stating he has experience with supplements and knows how trend works. So just sounds like he want to be convinced into using tren. I don’t mean to sound like a d**k to the OP but we get this a lot where they want to hear yes use xyz. And every suggest NO they end saying I’m use it anyways.

Hey man tbh im more or less just looking for ideas/suggestions and im also super impatient. Yes i know how this works. More or less was just looking for advice on compounds that maybe better to use or just to keep doing what im doing for now. Sorry for the ignorance. Just I always know there's a ton of experience here on these forums and this really the only place I trust for advice and ideas without getting complety shitted on.

 

[Sectør]

You’ve gotten some good advice in the thread

I Definitely wouldn’t recommend jumping right into the deep end with tren, especially if you’re still trying to find your groove and get things dialed back in

 

[AllOkJumpmaster]

How much fat?

Best advice is, take it slow, especially coming in off those types of injuries. Focus on getting lean first, while also easing back into weight training. Even if things feel good, keep volume low, get back to feeling comfortable with your form, especially if those injuries require you to alter how you used to move. It is very easy to sustain and injury pushing too hard or too fast early

As other have said, get your diet rolling. Get on some macros, track food, set a routine, etc. It will be much easier to start ramping up a more focused muscle building routine if you are leaner, and also if you have a basic diet and training framework rolling that you can expound upon / fill in the gaps.

You can do all of that with our drugs in my opinion.

 

[AllOkJumpmaster]

Also, your body is going to respond faster than you think if you are consistent. Muscle memory is a very real thing, even in a deficit.

 

[Excells]

How much fat?

Best advice is, take it slow, especially coming in off those types of injuries. Focus on getting lean first, while also easing back into weight training. Even if things feel good, keep volume low, get back to feeling comfortable with your form, especially if those injuries require you to alter how you used to move. It is very easy to sustain and injury pushing too hard or too fast early

As other have said, get your diet rolling. Get on some macros, track food, set a routine, etc. It will be much easier to start ramping up a more focused muscle building routine if you are leaner, and also if you have a basic diet and training framework rolling that you can expound upon / fill in the gaps.

You can do all of that with our drugs in my opinion.

Hey man appreciate the response. But your totally correct as I stated in a previous reply im very inpatient and just wanna get back to where I was previously. But I got kinda what I wanted and that was to be told to chill out and take it slow. Im currently at about 18-19% BF according to one of my handheld bf scanners ( yes im aware its not the most accurate but gives me an idea of where im at). Once again thanks for the reply

 

[artie farkalarty]

what’s the rush? You’re coming back from an injury. Sounds like you had some time to process but it all came from a self-imposed sense of urgency? You’ve got no real timetable to get to where you want to be right? Just keep grinding / be consistent.

 

[KingOfSushi]

Feel like we've seen a lot of these, "im back after blah blah blah" type threads lately.
And the advice tends to be alll the same.

Step 1 - get back into a decent rhythm of gym and your nutrtion on point. If you are not healed enough to train hard there is 0 reason to go and add other variables to the mix. Get your motivation back and eat good + trt. That is enough.
Step 2 - once you are fulled healed you actually need a plan of attack. I dont think you have a "what gear should I run" question, i think this is a "what actually am i doing? Am i trying to grow? Am i lean enough to do that? What am i trying to do"

Aside from that, I would skip the tren. You can get mostly everything you need from test and GH honestly. Especially if you dont have any crazy physique goals and juust want to regain what you lost.

Now I wonder how @beast405 is doing… wonder if he ever got in the gym

 

[Excells]

what’s the rush? You’re coming back from an injury. Sounds like you had some time to process but it all came from a self-imposed sense of urgency? You’ve got no real timetable to get to where you want to be right? Just keep grinding / be consistent.

Yeahh you’re totally right there is no rush. Just stubborn. Appreciate ya

 

[KingOfSushi]

Hey man tbh im more or less just looking for ideas/suggestions and im also super impatient. Yes i know how this works. More or less was just looking for advice on compounds that maybe better to use or just to keep doing what im doing for now. Sorry for the ignorance. Just I always know there's a ton of experience here on these forums and this really the only place I trust for advice and ideas without getting complety shitted on.

Ideas and suggestions for what? I’m just a bit confused what the main point of the thread is. Just gotta dial in the basics and go from there bro.

 

[bbxtreme]

Hey man appreciate the response. But your totally correct as I stated in a previous reply im very inpatient and just wanna get back to where I was previously. But I got kinda what I wanted and that was to be told to chill out and take it slow. Im currently at about 18-19% BF according to one of my handheld bf scanners ( yes im aware its not the most accurate but gives me an idea of where im at). Once again thanks for the reply

You need a hard cut and TRT+. Plain and simple. Tren at that high of bodyfat is playing with . Strip the fat with cardio, clen, GLP’s, dieting and then worry about the other stuff.

 

[pimpman]

Hey man tbh im more or less just looking for ideas/suggestions and im also super impatient. Yes i know how this works. More or less was just looking for advice on compounds that maybe better to use or just to keep doing what im doing for now. Sorry for the ignorance. Just I always know there's a ton of experience here on these forums and this really the only place I trust for advice and ideas without getting complety shitted on.

No I wasn’t quoting you trying to come across being an ass. I hope you didn’t take it that way. I was honestly confused. We get a lot of guys that come asking if they should take this or that. And when everyone tells them no. And spend the time to post and give advice. At the end they say I’m take it anyway.

But besides that. I would honestly agree with what others have said. Don’t jump into tren now. You be surprised how much you can advance with hard training being consistent and of course diet. And cardio for sure.

I know the impatient part. I’ve been there myself. Many years ago lol. Take some test and eq and you will like what it will do for you. Specially if you want to lean out. Save the tren for wayyyy later. When you plateau with everything including training. If you don’t want to raise the dose of what you been taking . Then you can throw in a sprinkle of tren. But again at the most latest time down the road towards your goal.. and most important get bloodwork done.

Good luck with your journey brother

 

[pimpman]

I would definitely take the advice @bbxtreme gave you. That is a solid advice.