Loosing Libido. I don't get it??

[Fullybuilt]

I dont get it. For 2months i've been on
6iu's HGH
100mg Tren Ace EOD
750mg test
600mg eq
and 50-100mg Winny ED
and my sex drive is unreal with my girlfriend. I also take .5mg cabergoline 3x per week. I thought the tren would make it a little less, but I was ragging all the time. I just cut out the tren and am still on the same of everything else and suddenly my sex drive has dropped and its harder to maintain erections this past month. So weird, I thought dropping the tren would make it even more insane. Im also on 25mg aromasin and 10mg nolva. Was on that from day one also. I wonder whats the deal. Im thinking maybe b/c I switched up tests from PRL to now using QV or maybe im on too main anti-e's and it was ok before b/c of tren, but now it may be too much. Im still just as strong and holding the same size. I don't get it??

 

[cryptasm]

Try some proviron, worked for me..

 

[Ivan]

nope

Get off the anti-E's -- see what happens then....

 

[Fullybuilt]

Try some proviron, worked for me..

I forgot to add, i've been on 50mg proviron the whole time as well. I did cut the dose to 25mg and noticed a big sex drive drop and softer erections for about 4days. So I upped it to 50mg and have been on that for a good week again and still no diff.

 

[1badboy]

100 mg Proviron?

You sound like you have everything dialed-in just right- even Dostinex w/ Tren. But I go through same things as you and I think it has a little to do with the changing hormone levels.

But don't be afraid to do 100 mg Proviron - it's expensive but fun

And I am very sensitive to anti-es so as Ivan said, maybe drop them or lower arimedex dosage for awhile to see what happens.

1bb

 

[JETHRO TULL]

HOW MANY DAYS A WEEK ARE YOU LIFTING??

ARE YOU OVERTRAINED....LACKNG IN SLEEP....FOR ME THAT'S ONE OF THE SIGNS THAT I NEED TO TAKE A DAY OR TWO OF REST. MAYBE YOUR TEST IS BOGUS.....

LIKE THE OTHER FELLAS SAID.....I'VE HEARD THAT TOO LOW OF ESTROGEN LEVELS DIMINISH THE SEX DRIVE.

 

[LATS]

i use jethro's training pics as a screen saver.. it literally saved my marriage...

 

[LMR]

i get the same problem if i run to many anti e's and two people mentioned that already. i ran insane amounts of arimidex when i ran 2.5 grams of Test E last summer and my libido went to hell. I came off arimidex and slowly it returned. Im almost certain there was a correlation. besides that stick to proviron that's your best bet if you dont change anything.

 

[JETHRO TULL]

HAHAHAHAHA....OH, YOU FUCKER! 5:AM CARDIO AND I SEE THIS FIRST THING...

i use jethro's training pics as a screen saver.. it literally saved my marriage...

PRETTY FUNNY LATS.....LOL

 

[Mr Pickles]

i was gonna say his pics ruined my erections.... for you they helped...

who knows

 

[Mr Pickles]

I forgot to add, i've been on 50mg proviron the whole time as well. I did cut the dose to 25mg and noticed a big sex drive drop and softer erections for about 4days. So I upped it to 50mg and have been on that for a good week again and still no diff.

yeah, so my ummmm... friend was doing test 800mg/week with deca 400mg/week and dbol 40mg/d for 5 weeks... he got to week 10 of the cycle and noticed it was difficult to get off... so he stopped the cycle... took cytadren for two weeks, 40mg nolva for 2 weeks... i guess once the test got out of his system, then his boner stopped working completely... so he started taking proviron 50mg/day for a week, then 25mg/day for another two weeks... even added dostinex at .5mg day a week....

i know this... he'll never be running deca again.. holy hell is thats stuff pure evil..

he's giving the dostinex another week before he goes to the Dr.... the shit is outta control

 

[OuchThatHurts]

Many things can cause ED. When taking massive amounts of androgens and anabolics, supplements, etc. you have to believe that you cannot reproduce the chemical balance your body maintains naturally. I'm only saying this because I don't want you guys to read to much into it or get to worried too much about it. Overtraining and depression symptoms are almost identical. Willy is not going to work well for you in this hostile chemical and workload environment. Plus things that are closely related to sex drive like testosterone, estrogen, prolactin are all out of flux. A complex series of chemical events and even electrical events has to take place for an erection to even take place. Even more to maintain one, and even MORE to go the distance. Plus you have a lot on your mind, the stress of a job maybe, plus the stress of training, plus the pressure to continue to "perform" well like you always have.

It took me a while before I realized that taking a week or even two off from training worked wonders and even taking longer breaks between cycles and not just 4 weeks of PCT, notice some improvement and then back on. I hope to gain 10lbs of lean mass this past year but I'd give up all 10 to make sure the general is still in good shape.

bromo
cabergoline
proviron
maintenance test dosage (200-300mg)
HCG and Hmg
dostinex
clomid
cialis

You have a pretty nice array of possibilities both physically and mentally as WELL as chemically (the above have all been known to increase libido) at your disposal so you should be fine. Personally, I place cock health above all else.

 

[Fullybuilt]

I forgot to mention that I increased my hours at work by double. Im a personal trainer. Everyday off work im exausted. I bet that has something to do with it. Im gonna keep the nolva at 10mg b/c I heard your supposed to use nolva when on HCG. NOt for anti-e purposes, but supposedly nolva+hcg makes your LH stay in tact better than just HCG. I wish I could find that study. So, im gonna stay at 50mg proviron, 10mg nolva and im gonna cut my aromasin dose in half from 25mg ED to 12.5mg and see what happens. If I start noticing more bloat, then my esto is too high so I gotta go back to 25 but if not, then hopefully i'll be good.

 

[JETHRO TULL]

Sounds like you are tired mofo...

I forgot to mention that I increased my hours at work by double. Im a personal trainer. Everyday off work im exausted. I bet that has something to do with it. Im gonna keep the nolva at 10mg b/c I heard your supposed to use nolva when on HCG. NOt for anti-e purposes, but supposedly nolva+hcg makes your LH stay in tact better than just HCG. I wish I could find that study. So, im gonna stay at 50mg proviron, 10mg nolva and im gonna cut my aromasin dose in half from 25mg ED to 12.5mg and see what happens. If I start noticing more bloat, then my esto is too high so I gotta go back to 25 but if not, then hopefully i'll be good.

AM I A GENIUS OR WHAT???? LOL..

 

[JETHRO TULL]

COME ON ....HOW CAN YOU SPEAK AFTER THAT MANGINA STUFF?! LOL..

i was gonna say his pics ruined my erections.... for you they helped...

who knows

UNFORTUNATELY, I GET HARD LOOKING AT THAT PIC!

 

[OuchThatHurts]

AM I A GENIUS OR WHAT???? LOL..

So you're stealing my clients now?!? That's just great.... pfft... hahaha... I do think you hit the nail on the head JT.

It sounds like he may be just overworked and under stress. Nobody should forget the tremendous amount of strain your body is under from training. A leg day is a HUGE output. My lifting bud and I figured out one day that we had together squated a total of over 16 tons of iron! Just with legs! Add a busy work schedule, a nagging wife, too much money in inventory, and guess what? Little joey isn't going anywhere. I'm just saying to not read a lot into it, don't be too hard on yourself, and cut yourself some slack. It's only natural that within our biology lies a mechanism which shuts down mating during times when survival is more important.

I remember a reading a funny story about how your brain can pretty much get you to do what it needs to stay healthy. A guy trying to work his way through thornbushes is going to go slow and yelp every step of the way. But if you put a hungry bear on his ass, he'll get through the thornbushes and run a half a mile and never feel a single thing. The pain of the thorns is now detrimental to his survival so what does the brain do? Just shuts it right off and says "RUN BITCH!!! RUUUUUN!!!"

 

[JETHRO TULL]

DOC, YOU ARE THE MAN!

So you're stealing my clients now?!? That's just great.... pfft... hahaha... I do think you hit the nail on the head JT.

It sounds like he may be just overworked and under stress. Nobody should forget the tremendous amount of strain your body is under from training. A leg day is a HUGE output. My lifting bud and I figured out one day that we had together squated a total of over 16 tons of iron! Just with legs! Add a busy work schedule, a nagging wife, too much money in inventory, and guess what? Little joey isn't going anywhere. I'm just saying to not read a lot into it, don't be too hard on yourself, and cut yourself some slack. It's only natural that within our biology lies a mechanism which shuts down mating during times when survival is more important.

I remember a reading a funny story about how your brain can pretty much get you to do what it needs to stay healthy. A guy trying to work his way through thornbushes is going to go slow and yelp every step of the way. But if you put a hungry bear on his ass, he'll get through the thornbushes and run a half a mile and never feel a single thing. The pain of the thorns is now detrimental to his survival so what does the brain do? Just shuts it right off and says "RUN BITCH!!! RUUUUUN!!!"

AN INTELLIGENT DUDE WHO PUMPS IRON AND HAS A WELL DEVELOPED INTELLECT TO GO ALONG WITH IT! I SAY THIS TO ALL WHO CROSS A MAN WITH THOSE TRAITS IN AN UNFRIENDLY ENCOUNTER............."RUN, BITCH!!! RUUUUN!!!" HAHAAHAHHAAHHAAAA....

MR. PICKLES..... MY TRAINING PICTURES TEND TO KILL MANY A LIBIDO!

 

[OuchThatHurts]

AN INTELLIGENT DUDE WHO PUMPS IRON AND HAS A WELL DEVELOPED INTELLECT TO GO ALONG WITH IT! I SAY THIS TO ALL WHO CROSSES A MAN WITH THOSE TRAITS IN AN UNFRIENDLY ENCOUNTER............."RUN, BITCH!!! RUUUUN!!!" HAHAAHAHHAAHHAAAA....

MR. PICKLES..... MY TRAINING PICTURES TEND TO KILL MANY A LIBIDO!

Seriously, good call on the overtraining. Isn't it amazing how much smarter our bodies are than us? Never try to match wits with your biology. You will lose every single time.

 

[OuchThatHurts]

I think we guys just put way to much pressure on ourselves. We think we have to be the provider, the strength, the leader, the boss and all the while trying to understand and be considerate of feelings and emotions which we all just love soooo much. Take care of today well and tommorrow takes care of itself. I have the same genetics and general build as a wise man who once said "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today." - the resemblance is uncanny.

You can't take libido so seriously. It's fun to say the word though. LIBIDO.

I just ate a half a dozen libidos.
I just bought a 2006 Chrysler Libido.
I walked downstairs and accidently sprained by libido.
In Iraq this morning they successfully captured Lah-Beedoh Ez Hari and AL-Suk Ak'weer.

It's one of the funnest words in bonerology.

Okay, I'm off. It's single-father retreat day and someone has to keep it from turning into an ex-wife bitching session, or worse, a posse...

 

[lynx]

Seriously, good call on the overtraining. Isn't it amazing how much smarter our bodies are than us? Never try to match wits with your biology. You will lose every single time.

JT know's overtraining quite well! Sometimes he just gets a little to gung ho about lifting.