Low test high anabolics vs high test low anabolics

[IluvBJ]

I’ve been out of the game for about a decade
Getting back into the groove of things
Currently running 500mg test and starting gh back up for a 12 week run to get back old gains.

Will be going back to Trt with the gh 4-6iu a day.

It seems like there is a trend of guys doing 4-600mg test with 1000+ mg of an anabolic

Comparative to 1g test with say 400-600 primo/mast.

I’ve never ran over a g of gear at once my best look was 16 week cycle 200 test with 20mg tren a eod at 8week mark switched 300 test and 300 1test cyp no gh at that time I did run gh after that with 600 test and grew a lot but life got in the way and I fell away from the gym life

Pic is prior best 5’10 220ish dry in the am on that cut cycle

Let’s hear your guys experiences and opinions I want to gas it up here soon

 

[pesty4077]

This subject has been talked about many times here. Use the search button.

 

[Splitzz]

Search feature my friend.. this topic has been beaten to death

 

[IluvBJ]

The only thread I seen of decent merit and still nothing solid is from 2012-2019 being the last post things change and people learn over time which is why I chose to post

 

[MajinBoo]

You are doing 500mg. Did 600mg in the past and grew a lot. WHy the hell are you thinking about low test and higher dosage of other anabolics above 1g? I really dont understand.. first you should escalate slowly and still get the most of it
Test is best...

 

[IluvBJ]

You are doing 500mg. Did 600mg in the past and grew a lot. WHy the hell are you thinking about low test and higher dosage of other anabolics above 1g? I really dont understand.. first you should escalate slowly and still get the most of it
Test is best...

I’m generalizing here, more so from a knowledge standpoint if it’s superior to run a lower dose of testosterone with higher anabolics

 

[Cinder]

I personally loved lower test and higher tren or npp or dhb. Higher test made any amount of tren feel gross.

 

[dantes]

I personally loved lower test and higher tren or npp or dhb. Higher test made any amount of tren feel gross.

High test moderate tren You feel gross but it’s damn effective lol

 

[bigzzz]

Low test is shit

 

[dantes]

Low test is shit

I can’t say I ever grew much doing high anabolics with low test. I just never had the same fullness or strength

 

[IluvBJ]

I can’t say I ever grew much doing high anabolics with low test. I just never had the same fullness or strength

This is what I’m leaning towards working up to, would you agree it’s guys that have ran high test built the foundation then they don’t need as much testosterone and anabolics fill in the milligram gap to maintain that size?

 

[dantes]

This is what I’m leaning towards working up to, would you agree it’s guys that have ran high test built the foundation then they don’t need as much testosterone and anabolics fill in the milligram gap to maintain that size?

I think it varies a lot. Some guys have built good size using deca as their foundation. Generally though I think most guys build the bulk of their size on higher test cycles.
I have yet to see anybody put on a lot muscle doing high mast low test but that is relatively popular. Some claim all steroids accrue mass at a similar rate but I have not found this to anecdotally true

 

[BreakinGenetics]

I can’t say I ever grew much doing high anabolics with low test. I just never had the same fullness or strength

hrt test, 5-10 iu novolin r pre workout, 2-4iu gh per day

these are "low doses' of human bio identical compounds.

anyone replicating this will acquire better results than 1g test + 1g deca etc

 

[traininsane11]

hrt test, 5-10 iu novolin r pre workout, 2-4iu gh per day

these are "low doses' of human bio identical compounds.

anyone replicating this will acquire better results than 1g test + 1g deca etc

Umm what?

Can’t wait to see the data you don’t provide to back this claim up

 

[BreakinGenetics]

Umm what?

Can’t wait to see the data you don’t provide to back this claim up

you are new here, use the search feature and go read the older and also recent threads pertaining to this exact cycle, there is 50 pages literally, and there are 50 of us doing 10mg tren ace per day for instance, MORE is not better

 

[traininsane11]

you are new here, use the search feature and go read the older and also recent threads pertaining to this exact cycle, there is 50 pages literally, and there are 50 of us doing 10mg tren ace per day for instance, MORE is not better

When in doubt double down and make it even worse

 

[BreakinGenetics]

When in doubt double down and make it even worse

lol I am confused not sure what you mean, but cheers either way brother

 

[traininsane11]

lol I am confused not sure what you mean, but cheers either way brother

I haven’t come across anyone else claiming that essentially you can build a better physique off essentially replacement dosages of test, gh and insulin than someone using 2g of total
Anabolics?

If that was the case literally all young natural athletes would be better than open Olympian competitors

Then you said I was new here and about 10mg of tren ace which immediately contradicted your initial blanket absolute statement

I do however agree more isn’t always better

 

[IluvBJ]

I think it varies a lot. Some guys have built good size using deca as their foundation. Generally though I think most guys build the bulk of their size on higher test cycles.
I have yet to see anybody put on a lot muscle doing high mast low test but that is relatively popular. Some claim all steroids accrue mass at a similar rate but I have not found this to anecdotally true

John Jewett is a big supporter of the “low” test high anabolics. He has stated his last prep was 1g test 2g masteron.
And a lot of the guys they coach run similar ratios not that high of quantity I’ve seen but similar fashion

 

[tommyguns2]

John Jewett is a big supporter of the “low” test high anabolics. He has stated his last prep was 1g test 2g masteron.
And a lot of the guys they coach run similar ratios not that high of quantity I’ve seen but similar fashion

Curious why he didn’t simply run HRT and 2-4iUs of GH?