Low test high anabolics vs high test low anabolics

[buck]

The only thread I seen of decent merit and still nothing solid is from 2012-2019 being the last post things change and people learn over time which is why I chose to post

I find cycles are much like diet or training philosophy or women. One size does not fit all. You try different ones out till you find what you like and are willing to apply yourself to.

 

[Anabolix8]

I’ve been out of the game for about a decade
Getting back into the groove of things
Currently running 500mg test and starting gh back up for a 12 week run to get back old gains.

Will be going back to Trt with the gh 4-6iu a day.

It seems like there is a trend of guys doing 4-600mg test with 1000+ mg of an anabolic

Comparative to 1g test with say 400-600 primo/mast.

I’ve never ran over a g of gear at once my best look was 16 week cycle 200 test with 20mg tren a eod at 8week mark switched 300 test and 300 1test cyp no gh at that time I did run gh after that with 600 test and grew a lot but life got in the way and I fell away from the gym life

Pic is prior best 5’10 220ish dry in the am on that cut cycle

Let’s hear your guys experiences and opinions I want to gas it up here soon

Welcome back. A lot has changed, but more gear doesn’t automatically mean more progress. Plenty of guys are running 1.5–2g total now, but if your training, diet, sleep, and recovery aren’t dialed in, it’s mostly just more side effects. Since you’re coming back after a long break,

I’d see how you respond to your current setup before cranking things up. You can always add later if needed. Muscle memory is real, so you may be surprised how much you regain without chasing huge doses. Your previous cycle clearly worked well
I’d build from there instead of assuming you need to follow today’s trends.

 

[Flex500]

sure... so do I, in particular during prep cycles. but its not low test high anabolics. its high test high anabolics lol

exactly that is kind of what I was getting that. I does high test / high anabolics at a 1:1 ratio or still high test with just slightly high(er) anabolics. But's never like 150-300 test and 1,400 mast.

 

[dieselbuilder]

Welcome back. A lot has changed, but more gear doesn’t automatically mean more progress. Plenty of guys are running 1.5–2g total now, but if your training, diet, sleep, and recovery aren’t dialed in, it’s mostly just more side effects. Since you’re coming back after a long break,

I’d see how you respond to your current setup before cranking things up. You can always add later if needed. Muscle memory is real, so you may be surprised how much you regain without chasing huge doses. Your previous cycle clearly worked well
I’d build from there instead of assuming you need to follow today’s trends.

Pretty AI-y there man. I see why people get annoyed with this

 

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[Mufasa123]

For what it's worth, every seriously big human I've ever seen ran a lot of test (like a gram or grams). I don't know of an exception. Never seen one become a giant running 200mg test and a high masteron or other anabolic cycle. That's a clue right there, as I'm older, been at this a while, and know people across BBing and strength sports.

Now we can all talk about what we like to run and what older guys who are big use to maintain size but that's feels and hold on vs maximum build which is generally the focus on a BBing forum.

For a good portion of my life I've favored moderate test and equal or higher anabolics (early days in 90s even low or no test). That said, my goal was never to get as big as possible and if it was then or today, I'd move to higher test like 1g minimum baseline and go up from there with whatever anabolics I might want in the mix (just the AAS side).

My 2 cents.

 

[luki7788]

For what it's worth, every seriously big human I've ever seen ran a lot of test (like a gram or grams). I don't know of an exception. Never seen one become a giant running 200mg test and a high masteron or other anabolic cycle. That's a clue right there, as I'm older, been at this a while, and know people across BBing and strength sports.

Now we can all talk about what we like to run and what older guys who are big use to maintain size but that's feels and hold on vs maximum build which is generally the focus on a BBing forum.

For a good portion of my life I've favored moderate test and equal or higher anabolics (early days in 90s even low or no test). That said, my goal was never to get as big as possible and if it was then or today, I'd move to higher test like 1g minimum baseline and go up from there with whatever anabolics I might want in the mix (just the AAS side).

My 2 cents.

100% agree

 

[kyin-peptide]

For what it's worth, every seriously big human I've ever seen ran a lot of test (like a gram or grams). I don't know of an exception. Never seen one become a giant running 200mg test and a high masteron or other anabolic cycle. That's a clue right there, as I'm older, been at this a while, and know people across BBing and strength sports.

Now we can all talk about what we like to run and what older guys who are big use to maintain size but that's feels and hold on vs maximum build which is generally the focus on a BBing forum.

For a good portion of my life I've favored moderate test and equal or higher anabolics (early days in 90s even low or no test). That said, my goal was never to get as big as possible and if it was then or today, I'd move to higher test like 1g minimum baseline and go up from there with whatever anabolics I might want in the mix (just the AAS side).

My 2 cents.

Yes, I strongly agree.

 

[specter]

For what it's worth, every seriously big human I've ever seen ran a lot of test (like a gram or grams). I don't know of an exception. Never seen one become a giant running 200mg test and a high masteron or other anabolic cycle. That's a clue right there, as I'm older, been at this a while, and know people across BBing and strength sports.

Now we can all talk about what we like to run and what older guys who are big use to maintain size but that's feels and hold on vs maximum build which is generally the focus on a BBing forum.

For a good portion of my life I've favored moderate test and equal or higher anabolics (early days in 90s even low or no test). That said, my goal was never to get as big as possible and if it was then or today, I'd move to higher test like 1g minimum baseline and go up from there with whatever anabolics I might want in the mix (just the AAS side).

My 2 cents.

100% agreed.

 

[massephase]

So 1g of test is low?

Low for John, high for qbkilla

 

[graybass]

You guys make this too hard! One of my good friends (you all know the name) always said the magic starts a 1 gram of test. Everything else is just extras. That and a little GH is all you need!

 

[LATS]

I have seen both ways work for people.. the only way youll know is to try it.. but if you are a guy who cant stand higher test or feel crappy on higher test then dont be scared to try low test and higher anabolics..

On the flip side ive seen guys use nothing but test.. high dose.. very little if any AI and with some gh build some great physique.. but again its very individual..

You'll get guys who love low test and high anabolics like Carroll who used 400mg test and up to 900 mg primo and hes built a great physique..

Again you'll get a bunch of different opinions and never know what applies to you until you give it a shot..

But as much as I hate using higher test doses for me I have to admit for the vast majority of people who are trying to aquire as much mass as possible using high test does work and the vast majority of mass monsters used high test..

 

[bigzzz]

You guys make this too hard! One of my good friends (you all know the name) always said the magic starts a 1 gram of test. Everything else is just extras. That and a little GH is all you need!

Who is that?

 

[madcap71]

Test is king. Always will be.

There is no way, in anyway shape or form that 200mg of test, 10iu of slin and 2-4iu of GH will top higher test or other PEDS.

Also, John pushes up even higher on test, if im correct 2000mg plus on his forum if I read correctly.

Not really related to this discussion or anything... but really enjoyed your episode with Nyle, although it did irritate me when he interrupted the most heartfelt and emotional part of your story, for his own therapy session.

 

[Ranchhand]

Not really related to this discussion or anything... but really enjoyed your episode with Nyle, although it did irritate me when he interrupted the most heartfelt and emotional part of your story, for his own therapy session.

I agree and see this as well. Some of these better-known podcasters seem to like to talk over the given person they're interviewing about experiences they've had. It gets really annoying and makes me question why they're even bothered to have this person on their podcast if they're not going to allow the person to fully speak about their experiences in life and BB. Defeats the whole purpose of the interview.