I'll also say from my own experience Iv been my heaviest at 265 while on 2000+ mg of test weekly and I don't think it made me stronger than a low test high deca cycle. I looked like shit was always winded got sum acne which I never get and my blood preassure was deathly high. Sure I was heavy but doing all this for so many years I know lbs on the scale do NOT dictate how much actual muscle I'm growing. I go by look, feel and by the way normal people stare at me when I'm out and about. Those looks say a lot. When I'm veiny as fuck and every muscle pops just standing in line at the grocery store and people notice that........and I actually notice myself that I look different than 99% of mankind I know Iv done something right. Looking back to the 90,s when I ran high test cycles and thought I was big because my arms didn't fit in shirts and I had to cut all the sleeves off....looking at old pictures all I notice is my big gut and my moon face. I only had one vein you could see lol the old brachial vein which is no milestone I looked like shit. perception and self image is much different now.