maintaing after cycle

[PsyT]

so if you have good blood tests right after your PCT ends (how long do you wait to let blood levels normalize when you take away the PCT drugs?) then you'll start another 4-weeker?

I ask because clomid can raise hypogonadal men's test levels into supraphysiological levels. Then when you take it away they fall back down to lower levels. So you would want to at least clear that normalization period.

 

[tkav1980]

so if you have good blood tests right after your PCT ends (how long do you wait to let blood levels normalize when you take away the PCT drugs?) then you'll start another 4-weeker?

I ask because clomid can raise hypogonadal men's test levels into supraphysiological levels. Then when you take it away they fall back down to lower levels. So you would want to at least clear that normalization period.

i personally usually get a blood test 1 week after finishing pct. wiht the doseages i use for a cycle and pct i have not had any problems wiht bloodwork. this will be highly individual. the only way to know for sure how you will react to a certain protocall is to carefully test it.

 

[Ness]

There are a lot of opinions on here that people are stating as factual, and thats too bad. Recovery is individually based. Longer cycles do not automatically mean HRT or "damage." Blood work 1 week after pct indicates absolutely nothing to a real sustained recovery. Some need pct while others never do. Your body does not know the difference between 1 week and 4 weeks.

The only real fact is once you start playing with drugs like these, youre rolling the dice. Tread carefully...you may come out a winner or a loser.

 

[tkav1980]

There are a lot of opinions on here that people are stating as factual, and thats too bad. Recovery is individually based. Longer cycles do not automatically mean HRT or "damage." Blood work 1 week after pct indicates absolutely nothing to a real sustained recovery. Some need pct while others never do. Your body does not know the difference between 1 week and 4 weeks.

The only real fact is once you start playing with drugs like these, youre rolling the dice. Tread carefully...you may come out a winner or a loser.

you Sir are 100% correct. like i said, with MY bloodwork, and the way I chose to go about taking these risks I have no had a problem thus far. However, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS THE BEST WAY FOR EVERYONE ELSE. Some need no PCt, some need more. some are fine on year long cycles and recover just fine after them, and some take 3 weeks of orals and never recover fully at all. its the same reason i cant be an olympian, GENETICS.

 

[Ness]

you Sir are 100% correct. like i said, with MY bloodwork, and the way I chose to go about taking these risks I have no had a problem thus far. However, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS THE BEST WAY FOR EVERYONE ELSE. Some need no PCt, some need more. some are fine on year long cycles and recover just fine after them, and some take 3 weeks of orals and never recover fully at all. its the same reason i cant be an olympian, GENETICS.

Amen, and youre experience and own experimentation has brought a ton of value to this board. Youre a leader around here for sure.