Markus Ruhl Cycles

[thethinker48]

I always used him as the example when people use to bitch about my smoking and working out

It's like the 80 year old Irish uncle that drinks whiskey like water and has a perfect liver

But American Bob gets cirrhosis at 38 after 10 years of drinking

 

[Pheedno]

It's like the 80 year old Irish uncle that drinks whiskey like water and has a perfect liver

But American Bob gets cirrhosis at 38 after 10 years of drinking

Itt'l bee grrate

 

[nothuman]

I don't think they're that high. I used 1.2 to 1.5 grams of Test and 600mg Deca as my go to doses and I didn't look anything like Markus! LOL!! When you realize it's a pyramid, it's really not excessive compared to what many use today! 1.4 to 1.5 grams were his top doses and that was only for 5 weeks or so. Many bodybuilders will take a static dose and ride it out for who knows how long. I'm not saying his dosages were small, I'm just saying with a pyramid cycle and what we know others have used, that's not unreasonable.

His peak Anadrol dose was 200mg/day for 3 weeks and that must have been fun as far as strength goes!

He used 1g of deca according to that. That’s kind of a lot. Also 200mg anadrol, 80mg dbol, 50mg M1T I think are a lot. I don’t think going higher than those amounts would yield bigger gains

 

[madg]

He used 1g of deca according to that. That’s kind of a lot. Also 200mg anadrol, 80mg dbol, 50mg M1T I think are a lot. I don’t think going higher than those amounts would yield bigger gains

1 g norma deca was magic for me

And yes is not small dose

Only reason i did 1 g is cause i used to get it

2 euro per 2ml vial in parmacy

So even 1g was cheaper rhan 1 g ugl test lol

 

[Elvia1023]

He used 1g of deca according to that. That’s kind of a lot. Also 200mg anadrol, 80mg dbol, 50mg M1T I think are a lot. I don’t think going higher than those amounts would yield bigger gains

They wouldn't imo. Probably just give you a few more pounds of water, up your bp by 10 more points and make you feel more lethargic.

I have been told certain things Marcus said in person about drugs to a competitor. I can't remember the full details now so will have to ask but I think it was 5 grams. Basically he told the guy if he was serious about competing and doing good he would need to be on at least 5 grams of test (this guy was only 212 as well). That's just the test as well and doesn't count other drugs. It's common knowledge from what I have been told that Marcus used massive amounts of drugs. Much higher than what is listed on this thread. Well not much higher all those doses listed but much more test to go with them.

It's clear as day Marcus tells the truth in certain circles and lies in others. I have seen him on a popular podcast and the drugs he listed out for that famous Night of Champions show were ridiculously low. I recall he was on a Dennis James podcast as well. I can't remember what doses he said but they weren't high and Dennis clearly looked at him like WTF because he will obviously know the truth from past conversations.

As you state all the above doses are high and will add up but add massive amounts of test and probably a few other things if you want the complete truth. Like with anyone he probably experimented with very high and much lower doses throughout his career. Quite honestly though I would be shocked if he was ever on less than a gram of test even now at 52 just with everything I have heard about him over the years.

 

[nothuman]

They wouldn't imo. Probably just give you a few more pounds of water, up your bp by 10 more points and make you feel more lethargic.

I have been told certain things Marcus said in person about drugs to a competitor. I can't remember the full details now so will have to ask but I think it was 5 grams. Basically he told the guy if he was serious about competing and doing good he would need to be on at least 5 grams of test (this guy was only 212 as well). That's just the test as well and doesn't count other drugs. It's common knowledge from what I have been told that Marcus used massive amounts of drugs. Much higher than what is listed on this thread. Well not much higher all those doses listed but much more test to go with them.

It's clear as day Marcus tells the truth in certain circles and lies in others. I have seen him on a popular podcast and the drugs he listed out for that famous Night of Champions show were ridiculously low. I recall he was on a Dennis James podcast as well. I can't remember what doses he said but they weren't high and Dennis clearly looked at him like WTF because he will obviously know the truth from past conversations.

As you state all the above doses are high and will add up but add massive amounts of test and probably a few other things if you want the complete truth. Like with anyone he probably experimented with very high and much lower doses throughout his career. Quite honestly though I would be shocked if he was ever on less than a gram of test even now at 52 just with everything I have heard about him over the years.

Well the book was written in 2001 so maybe he just upped the doses afterwards

 

[lookslikesausage]

I think he was dieting hence the cigarettes but I haven’t watched it in years.

He used to say it helped curb his appetite, which apparently nicotine can do. Can't speak from personal experience.

 

[Samson250]

He used to say it helped curb his appetite, which apparently nicotine can do. Can't speak from personal experience.

I read a study once that stated conclusively that it will turn you into a goddam sexual tyrannosaurus.

 

[Golden]

I read a study once that stated conclusively that it will turn you into a goddam sexual tyrannosaurus.

Now that really made me laugh out loud

There’s another study that if you don’t use nicotine, you’ll become a slack jawed faggot

 

[Golden]

 

[sire1996]

man's a legend

 

[null88]

Unless they kept a log, I have a hard time believing these pros remember exactly what they took

 

[kadafi2]

He used 1g of deca according to that. That’s kind of a lot. Also 200mg anadrol, 80mg dbol, 50mg M1T I think are a lot. I don’t think going higher than those amounts would yield bigger gains

You know, of course you are right that the doses from his book ARE LARGE for me and for many people from this place, but the thing is that for someone like Markus these are ridiculous doses. A top professional from those years, who was the biggest of them all thanks to genetics? No way, @Elvia1023 wrote an interesting piece of information about testosterone, because looking at his size, it is unrealistic to get it below 2g of testosterone. I don't believe in it, there are no miracles. The doses of GH and insulin are also very small for someone his size. He can't officially write in the book "I took 6g of testosterone and 4g of the rest of the equipment, I don't count GH and insulin yet" because there would be imitators right away, who would only hurt themselves with it. And what I wrote earlier: there is a lot of winstrol in his cycles, but no trenbolone, something is wrong here, isn't it? Markus loved muscles, equipment and bodybuilding like nothing else, a guy like that had to go to total extremes in every way.

 

[luki7788]

many years ago there was a meeting animal in Poland, there were among others McGrath, Joe Ladnier, Marcus was also invited - there was a discussion between leading polish bodybuilders Marcus talked to the polish super heavyweight bodybuilder who later became world champion and IFBB pro. He told for markus his current cycle and he just laughed and said jokingly "you take it like a child, you look like a child" - but it was not a joke

 

[Elvia1023]

many years ago there was a meeting animal in Poland, there were among others McGrath, Joe Ladnier, Marcus was also invited - there was a discussion between leading polish bodybuilders Marcus talked to the polish super heavyweight bodybuilder who later became world champion and IFBB pro. He told for markus his current cycle and he just laughed and said jokingly "you take it like a child, you look like a child" - but it was not a joke

That's what he done with the 212 competitor. I think he told him he would need at least 5g (might have been 4g) test if he is was serious and this guy wasn't big (I think 85kg).

 

[Growthman]

I think a lot of assumptions are being made here. I can’t read German, but I don’t think the cycles in the book are cycles actually used by Ruhl for XYZ show. They could be general recommendations for a beginner/intermediate/advanced bb which are in a book authored by Ruhl.

#2 For the person who called bs bc there was no tren in there, not everyone uses tren precontest. Hany’s Olympian coaching me many years ago did not use tren precontest and was very similar to what was outlined in the book (200mg prop Ed, winny Ed, t3, etc—no tren)

 

[nothuman]

I think a lot of assumptions are being made here. I can’t read German, but I don’t think the cycles in the book are cycles actually used by Ruhl for XYZ show. They could be general recommendations for a beginner/intermediate/advanced bb which are in a book authored by Ruhl.

#2 For the person who called bs bc there was no tren in there, not everyone uses tren precontest. Hany’s Olympian coaching me many years ago did not use tren precontest and was very similar to what was outlined in the book (200mg prop Ed, winny Ed, t3, etc—no tren)

2001 was way before my time. Was tren around yet or was it still the 176mg parabolan amps?

Also, Markus still competed for a while after 2001. He probably used a lot more after that year. I’m sure he used tren, whether it was before or after 2001.

 

[lookslikesausage]

I think a lot of assumptions are being made here. I can’t read German, but I don’t think the cycles in the book are cycles actually used by Ruhl for XYZ show. They could be general recommendations for a beginner/intermediate/advanced bb which are in a book authored by Ruhl.

#2 For the person who called bs bc there was no tren in there, not everyone uses tren precontest. Hany’s Olympian coaching me many years ago did not use tren precontest and was very similar to what was outlined in the book (200mg prop Ed, winny Ed, t3, etc—no tren)

I recall from the old Meso board (Chad's board) when Tom Prince would post. He claimed only Test, Winny, & Deca pre-contest and off-season and later on in his career, GH. Was it true? Who the hell knows. Chad was his coach and coached a lot of the biggest names at the time (Ronnie, Flex, Nasser). He was also one of the first pros that I ever heard write about eating a not-so-large amount of protein but that might have been because of his kidney condition. He retired not long after I read his posts about his pre-contest diet ('01 or '02).

 

[Jefe]

2001 was way before my time. Was tren around yet or was it still the 176mg parabolan amps?

From what I remember there were cow pellets and conversion kits. Don’t remember much else but I was Bebe then.

 

[Elvia1023]

I never understand when guys think they are lying because tren had to be in the mix like it's somehow needed to get it crazy condition. I am no expert because I was a kid at that time but I know tren started becoming more popular in the mid-late 90's but many didn't use it until much later. I believe parabolan was discontinued in 97 and even before that date guys weren't using massive amounts with 1-3 amps (76mg) per week being the dose for most people. Guys started using pellets but many didn't so I am sure quite a lot of guys who competed at the turn of the century didn't use tren until a bit later. I am sure Marcus used it later on (I believe this book was written in 2001) because he competed until 2010.