Maximum reasonable amount of test

[Zamun]

I have a weird arbitrary number in my mind of what I can run indefinitely safely. 500 is the limit. 700 feels better to me, but in my mind that’s where I’m doing damage. Makes zero sense lol.

 

[TEHL]

My sweet spot with test is 750 mg. I feel great, I look good, and my recovery is almost the same as when I run higher doses. Like I said, for me that’s the perfect dose.

I’ve gone up to 3 grams before, but anything past 1500 mg was basically useless. I stopped getting any strength or endurance gains. I just wanted to try it and see what it felt like. In the end I was just inflamed as hell.

 

[Gaintrain]

all depends on what side effects a person wants to deal with..

 

[Flocci]

Anecdotally it seems to be somewhere between 750-1750mg test a week where most people can tolerate it well without too many sides.

I haven't gone over 1400mg test personally and its been fine, I'll probably try more in the future.

It depends on the phase and context of what I'm doing at the moment, anywhere from 250-1400mg.

 

[blazencruise]

According to my endocrinologist anything over 100 mg / week is abuse

 

[Massive G]

Well I can fit 3ml in a barrel and I could pin daily....

I used 5 ml pins back in the day when all we had was lower and underdosed Mexican Brovel gear 50mg/ml.

 

[Massive G]

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101

 

[massephase]

what is the point less then 500mg test ?

this camp.

But for your goals, feeling great, health, small improvement in physique, I would say 300-500.

 

[Anabolix8]

Depends on the goal.

For pure bodybuilding, guys like Milos Sarcev look at it from a performance angle, so 500 mg+ makes sense to them.

For health or long term TRT, 150 to 200 mg is where most people stay.

Reality is the middle ground. Many guys grow well around 200 to 300 mg without pushing things too hard. Context matters more than a single number.

Just wonder what your opinion is on a subject? Do you more incline towards for example Milos who claim: what is the point less then 500mg test ? Or you are in a camp 150 mg and everything above is slowly digging yourself a grave.

 

[Dutch1909]

According to my endocrinologist anything over 100 mg / week is abuse

Atleast something you can abuse without consequences.

 

[massephase]

Atleast something you can abuse without consequences.

I don’t even accept this moralistic label by people. Use or abuse depends on the context. A bodybuilder uses a certain amount of drugs to reach his goal.
Same as an alcoholic, he also drinks a certain amount of alcohol to feel a certain way.
Someone who wants to maximize health uses small amounts of testosterone if he needs it and maybe small amounts of alcohol if it benefits his health. Both use testosterone/ alcohol but for one 2000mg might be the correct amount and for the other one 150mg

different ends, different means…

In the end all they are saying is: I don’t like the way you live/ think it is not the right way to live.