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MaxOut Machine Video Finally

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Guys here are the MaxOut machines...finally! Go to the youtube link at the bottom. If you don't remember these machines cut work out time drastically while at the same time giving bigger gains.

Also we are selling regional operator and local franchise units. Our website will officially be up by Wednesday of next week.

www.maxoutstudio.com

Since I know you guys sort of I will give you the pass to see the site. It is changing as we speak. Demo Demo username and pass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsCa_0yneTs

I, in the course of 2 months, have increased strength wise over 15%!!!!
 
Why does it seem that every machine used with this new system is nothing more then a negative movement? The machine is assisting you on the positive and letting you handle the negative portion of it. May I ask what good is a machine that only does negatives? Or did I miss the part where it later can be used backward helps you also on the negative but not the positive? Thats pretty much what a spotter does isnt it? On the bench press, he lifts the weight for you and you bring it down your self. Same as the machine but for far less money.


Are these machines more for a work hardening person? A person thats been hurt on the job or where ever and its a strengthening tool sort of piece of machinery?
 
BOOMSHAKER said:
Why does it seem that every machine used with this new system is nothing more then a negative movement? The machine is assisting you on the positive and letting you handle the negative portion of it. May I ask what good is a machine that only does negatives? Or did I miss the part where it later can be used backward helps you also on the negative but not the positive? Thats pretty much what a spotter does isnt it? On the bench press, he lifts the weight for you and you bring it down your self. Same as the machine but for far less money.


Are these machines more for a work hardening person? A person thats been hurt on the job or where ever and its a strengthening tool sort of piece of machinery?

No, these machines emphasize the eccentric contraction. The negative portion of the rep. You are able to lower about 30-35 % more weight than the lifting phase. The negative also incurs more microtrauma to the fibers therefore causing greater compensation. Also it should be noted that hyperplasia is thought to be mainly induced by heavy eccentrics (not to mention IGF-1 :)
 
strength increase is due to the emphasis on negative part but did u see a more important result in term of muscular growth with this kind of machines ?
 
Hope that cable never snaps :D
 
Here is another video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M414hAG_H8c

Also here are some answers to your questions.

First we maintain the machines, religiously and in 5 years of testing we have never had a cable snap.

Secondly, we do not concentrate solely on the negative rep. In body development of any kind in traditional training in each rep you work only 40% of the muscle in the eecentric movement and then stop tasking your self. (when your pushing the weight in the case of the bench) In our machines you do 100% of your eecentric but then on the eccentric movement you lift more.

For instance on my squat my max right now is 525. Well on my way up I do 525 but on the way down I do 600. So I am doing 100% of the capacity of my body. And since the overload is only on the negative their is no using bad form to move weight and the risk of severe injury is 60 to 80% less.

Also in terms of growth we did tests on the UF (national champions!!!!) defensive line for the last four years in the off season training program. We had half there defensive line keep with thier 5 a week training and half do the 2 a week with MaxOut. The group that did 2 a day had gains up to 15% more than the placebo group.
 
Also I forgot to mention

After you have trained for us with a while we have the ability to adjust the help within each set. Meaning.....

My squat set I talked about before....

525 on the way up and 600 on the way down. As I get tired the trainer working with me can make it so I am lifting 500 - 475 - 375 - 200 - 10 lbs but still getting 600 on the way down. This all happens within the set. :eek:
 
Okay, now that you've explained it thoroughly I get it! lol

5F00ter said:
After you have trained for us with a while we have the ability to adjust the help within each set. Meaning.....

My squat set I talked about before....

525 on the way up and 600 on the way down. As I get tired the trainer working with me can make it so I am lifting 500 - 475 - 375 - 200 - 10 lbs but still getting 600 on the way down. This all happens within the set. :eek:

That does sound really good! I'd be interested to see what it produced in the way of muscle mass!

Thanks for sharing your information. :)
 
Incredibly interesting...geez i was just in florida for 11 days including orlando (disney, universal) I really wish i had stopped by and taken a look. I think some of the guys on this thread might be getting confused.....your lifting the same exact weight you would be lifting right now (but with these machines the load on the negative eccentric portion would even be heavier than what your lifting now)
 
what is up with maxout marketing the machines at a fair price! lets see if the big boys in gym equipment agree with u.
 
I truly feel this is revolutionary. These machines along with progressive increases in weight from workout to workout and proper eating will turn average bodybuilders into much better ones very quickly. Now only if my Golds Gym had this equipment, I'd be on my way that much faster. :rolleyes:
 
so you are able to load the weight up to what is heavy enough for meaningfull negatives but you can still calibrate the amount used for the positive? this is quite revolutionary because it also eliminates the need for training partner(s) and the amount is consistent. it's my understanding that negatives while are great for increasing mass they do little for strength in the positive portion, so this machine covers both bases.
 
I am against this.

When entering the weak range of an exercise with a weight you can NOT handle in the concentric motion is begging for tendon damage. I would say that the most careful PRO could consider this, but most certainly no tubby, workout for 2 months a year dude like the guy in the video.
 
Golgo13 said:
I am against this.

When entering the weak range of an exercise with a weight you can NOT handle in the concentric motion is begging for tendon damage. I would say that the most careful PRO could consider this, but most certainly no tubby, workout for 2 months a year dude like the guy in the video.

negative training has been using by many persons, not only pros

I would never make a negative exercise to beginner but as soon as u get intermediate level then I 'm sure it's 100% ok
anyway negative exercises are to be done with spotters around
 
id give it a shot!! something different..
 
mike1107 said:
negative training has been using by many persons, not only pros

...

People do it, and the risks go up... I just don't think the risk vs reward ratio works out for this thing.

Look at it this way, I can gain mass and strength 2% faster than with concentric or static training, but I have a 30% great risk of injuring myself to the point that I will be laid up for 6 months. For me, this isn't worth it.
 
Golgo13 said:
People do it, and the risks go up... I just don't think the risk vs reward ratio works out for this thing.

Look at it this way, I can gain mass and strength 2% faster than with concentric or static training, but I have a 30% great risk of injuring myself to the point that I will be laid up for 6 months. For me, this isn't worth it.
i don't agree, as long as the muscle is properly warmed up, due to the nature of the speed of negatives(very slow), and not quick and jerky. most of my "injuries" over the years were from a quick jerky movement from a muscle not completely warmed up...i don't think the effectiveness of negatives can be debated, they are very effectve for mass building and as such should be employed, all weight training has a certain degree of "hazard" built in.
 
From American Fitness:

Eccentric contractions occur when the muscle is lengthened while developing tension. Eccentric contractions usually occur when a muscle acts to oppose the force of gravity, such as during the "down" phase of a bicep curl. (Figure 1). Eccentric contractions generally develop greater muscle tension than both isometric and concentric contractions. Subsequently, the muscle is also more vulnerable to rupture during an eccentric contraction.
 
The risk definitely goes up on the negative portion-when are most muscle tears happening? on the negative portion.

I'd be very careful.
Are you going to tear a muscle doing this training of heavier negatives? Probably not but you must be careful and cycle it like you do other training.
It is very effective to have heavier negatives but when you get int some crazy training techniques like negative only training it could get risky.

If I bench 400 how much can I safely lower? 500 550? 600? Think fo the stress of 600 lbs on yopur chest if you are used to 400.
 
Massive G said:
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If I bench 400 how much can I safely lower? 500 550? 600? Think fo the stress of 600 lbs on yopur chest if you are used to 400.

400
 

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