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Mental Game

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Long read ahead. Be forewarned!

A story to ponder for anyone considering juicing.

Up until about a year ago, I was on and off a cycle for about 2 years straight. Now this doesn't compare to the many people out there that stay on year round, but I am not looking to compete. Prior to discovering the usefullness of gear I was a gym rat who put on maybe 3 to 5 pounds of muscle per year whie maintaining a decent bf %. I have been in gyms since I was 19. I am now 30. Up until about 3 years ago, I was oblivious to what steroids were all about. They were taboo in my eyes and since I had no contact with anybody who was using (as far as I knew) I never gave them a second thought. Then one day I was browsing the web looking for info about a quick way to gain muscle, because I seemed to hit a plateau in gains. Common scenario! I ran across a multitude of sites about steroids. I thought I would give it a try and I did my homework. I got received my first cycle from a reputable source and after about amonth into it, I was completely hooked. Physically and mentally I felt like a giant among ants. There was no question where the confidence was coming from. Even a month into it, I made up my mind that I would never be satisfied in the gym without steriods. To me that represented what I considered a mental addiction. It didn't bother me one bit though. 2 years later I was still involved. I had gained probably 25lbs of muscle and I looked and felt like a tank. I was working a dream job and making bank. I was spending roughly 400 a month on keeping my image. To many that is not alot, but to me it was alot of money for someone who did it simply to make myself look and feel better. Well on December 24th of that year, I was laid off. This is where things went straight to the shitter. I immediately cancelled my gym membership and all extra ammenities that I enjoyed. I was still on a cycle at that point. I made the decision to stay on until I ran out of supplements and the food that was required to maintain my cycle. The following months proved to be a huge downfall. Coming off my cycle , I lost all motivation. I have a home gym, which is hardly adequate but sufficient to be semi-productive. I did get depressed some but I attribute that to getting laid off and the difficulty of finding a job in my field.

Now to the mind game issue. At this point in time I do not have the financial ability to support a cycle and I certainly don't have the money to support the diet. At this point, I am completely clean. I have a hard time putting true dedication into my workouts, because I am so stuck on the gains that I made while cycling that I feel working out natural will be fruitless. So my question is this, does anyone else feel the same about going from juiced to natural?

I have plans to get back in it, when I can afford the gym membership, diet and gear. Right now I feel any effort will be half-assed and not worth it. I am doing everything I can to maintain within my boundaries but it certainly is not the same and have lost a good bit of mass and gained about 2-3% bf in the meantime.

Also, please don't misinterpret this post as being anti-steroid. Personally I feel there is not a better solution for depression than steroids. I just wanted to know if there were anyone else out there who moved from juiced to natural and how did they handle it?

Sorry for the long post!
 
Become a fitness boy and get some tail, just do lighter workouts, more cardio and keep diet clean, also look into some bulk jugs they are cheap, or home brew.
 
I HAD A RECENT HEALTH SCARE THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT HAVE BEEN...

DUE TO 'SUPPLEMENTS'.......SO AS A RESULT I HAVE BEEN OFF FOR ABOUT 8 WEEKS. I DON'T REALLY LIKE IT EITHER. I STILL HAVE FUN WITH MY WORKOUTS THOUGH.......I HAVE KEPT EATING THE 6MEALS...AND MY WEIGHT HAS STAYED ABOUT THE SAME ALTHOUGH I AM NOT AS HARD OR FULL LOOKING. I AM SORT OF ENJOYING SEEING HOW WELL I CAN DO LIKE THIS FOR A WHILE. IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD, AFTER ALL, I CAN ALWAYS INDULGE ONCE AGAIN. MOST OF THE BATTLE IS WHAT YOU ARE EATING........IF YOUR DIET IS CLEAN......YOU CAN STILL LOOK GREAT. :)
 
My opinion.

The only things we can control are our thinking and our behavior. That's it.
So, now you have some choices to make. You can either chose to make this a negative situation or a positive one. Think of your situation as a chance to challenge yourself in spite of adversity or choose to be depressed! You are in control of you mental condition, brother!
 
Sigmund Roid said:
The only things we can control are our thinking and our behavior. That's it.
So, now you have some choices to make. You can either chose to make this a negative situation or a positive one. Think of your situation as a chance to challenge yourself in spite of adversity or choose to be depressed! You are in control of you mental condition, brother!

Don't get me wrong! I am certainly not depressed about the whole thing. I am just saying that I have a difficult time getting rid of the thought that unless I am juiced I am not going to be satisfied with anything I do in the gym.

Its kind of like going from rich to poor. One second your pumped and swole. The next you are back to square one almost. I have tried my very best to maintain my size but over the months I have shrunk and gained a few pounds. I can definitely say that my diet has been consistent. I dropped back on my protein intake to a level that supports my activity level. My caloric intake also has gone down. I contribute alot of it though to me just simply getting older.

I am fine with it now though. I don't know if my bones can support what I wish they could aymore. Its time to settle down some anyways!

Thanks
 
im the same way. unless im juiced i know i wont be satisfied. i need all the damn help i can get. if the big boys are juicing then what makes me think ill get close if i dont? im actually thinking of getting on 250mg test/week and staying on that dose and when cycling increase to 500mg and lower after a couple months. i hate being natural. ive been off for 12 weeks and have not made any gains. my test was low, still is for the most part, so why do this to myself? either stay on or dont cycle is the way i think. i dont want to go through a clomid pct, i cant handle that stuff.
 
There is something to be said of a lean guy with nice muscles, you dont have to kill yourself in the gym everyday, you do some cardio, overall physically you will feel better, and the size thing will go eventully.
 
All I can say is you have to start somewhere....Think of building blocks and build a little everyday until you can start building more and more pretty soon you'll be out of the hole and feeling good.
 

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