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Mexico Votes to Decriminalize Some Drugs

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Mexico Votes to Decriminalize Some Drugs

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Mexico Votes to Decriminalize Some Drugs By MARK STEVENSON, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 25 minutes ago



MEXICO CITY - Mexicans would be allowed to possess small amounts of cocaine, heroin, even ecstasy for their personal use under a bill approved by lawmakers that some worry could prove to be a lure to young Americans.

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The bill now only needs President Vicente Fox's signature to become law and that does not appear to be an obstacle. His office said that decriminalizing drugs will free up police to focus on major dealers.

"This law gives police and prosecutors better legal tools to combat drug crimes that do so much damage to our youth and children," said Fox's spokesman, Ruben Aguilar.

The Senate approved the bill Friday in the final hours of its closing session. Mexico's lower house had already endorsed the legislation.

The measure appeared to surprise U.S. officials. State Department spokeswoman Janelle Hironimus said the department was trying to get "more information" about it. One U.S. diplomat, who requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly, said "we're still studying the legislation, but any effort to decriminalize illegal drugs would not be helpful."

Some worried the law would increase drug addiction in Mexico and cause problems with the United States. Millions of American youths visit Mexico's beach resorts and border towns each year.

"A lot of Americans already come here to buy medications they can't get up there ... Just imagine, with heroin," said Ulisis Bon, a drug treatment expert in Tijuana, where heroin use is rampant.

In off-the-record chats and through their communications with U.S. officials, Mexican officials tried to depict the drug bill as a simple clarification of existing laws. But the changes are clear.

Currently, Mexican law leaves open the possibility of dropping charges against people caught with drugs if they can prove they are drug addicts and if an expert certifies they were caught with "the quantity necessary for personal use."

The new bill drops the "addict" requirement, allows "consumers" to have drugs, and sets out specific allowable quantities, which do not appear in the current law.

Those quantities are sometimes eye-popping: Mexicans would be allowed to posses 2.2 pounds of peyote, the button-sized hallucinogenic cactus used in some Indian religious ceremonies.

Police would no longer bother with possession of up to 25 milligrams of heroin, 5 grams of marijuana (about one-fifth of an ounce, or about four joints), or 0.5 grams of cocaine — the equivalent of about 4 "lines," or half the standard street-sale quantity.

The law lays out allowable quantities for a large array of other drugs, including LSD, MDA, MDMA (ecstasy, about two pills' worth), and amphetamines.

However the bill stiffens penalties for trafficking and possession of drugs — even small quantities — by government employees or near schools, and maintains criminal penalties for drug sales.

Sales of all those drugs would remain illegal under the proposed law, unlike in the Netherlands, where the sale of marijuana for medical use is legal and it can be bought with a prescription in pharmacies.

And while Dutch authorities look the other way regarding the open sale of cannabis in designated coffee shops — something Mexican police seem unlikely to do — the Dutch have zero tolerance for heroin and cocaine.

Sen. Miguel Angel Navarro of the leftist Democratic Revolution Party argued against the bill. "This authorizes the consumption of opium, morphine, heroin, cocaine, and a variety of drugs that can only be bought illicitly."

Roman Catholic Bishop Jose Guadalupe Martin Rabago, president of the Mexican Council of Bishops, also expressed concern.

"It's not by legalizing the possession or use of drugs that drug trafficking is going to be combatted," the bishop told reporters, "and that's why the government should be cautious about implementing this measure."

The law comes at a time of heightened tensions over a U.S. proposal for immigration reform, including legalization of many of America's estimated 11 million undocumented migrants.

A demonstration by thousands of Mexican workers Friday to promote union solidarity turned into a protest against America's vast influence on the nation's economy, with many protesters saying they will take part in a boycott of U.S. products next week. The proposed boycott is timed to coincide with Monday's "Day Without Immigrants" protest in the U.S., aimed at pushing Congress to approve the immigration reform.

Ethan Nadelmann, director of the New York-based Drug Policy Alliance, said Mexico's bill removed "a huge opportunity for low-level police corruption." Mexican police often release people detained for minor drug possession, in exchange for bribes.

i posted this thread not for the reason it states mexico is going to legalize rec drugs...no not at all. some drugs like marijuana i dont mind because i think like steroids our goverment over rates them as dangerous.

my point here is i like that mexico understands how and where the real problems are at and do not over rate or over flate the issues unlike our goverment. Im sure steroids are in that proposed bill some where and the united states needs to take a hard look at these other countries tactics. Also, the united states needs to stop bullying mexico and other third world countries into believing and enforcing its extreme right wing views on issues like steroids.

i say "YOU GO MEXICO!"
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anyone know if prostitution is gonna be eased up on also? :)
 
If nothing else this makes Mexico a better vacation destination :)
 
vacation destination... yeah right. i hope i'm wrong but i just see this as something to lure spring breakers and other tourists to boost their dwindling tourist trade. not only can 18yrolds drink now but they can snort some heroin. or whatever the hell you do with it.

disgraceful. and what's gonna be the allowable steroid unit? half a tab of winny? LOL

those crzy mexicans....
 
Well if they let them have 2.2 lbs of 'peyote'..whatever the hell that is.

Maybe it'll be like..2.2 lbs of Winny?

Hey a guy can dream. :rolleyes:
 
I heard this on the news. The us gov can't be happy. You know with all illegal drug profits going to alkida (miss-spelled on purpose. don't want to trigger the patriot law searches) and all......
 
Seriously. Why do we not take over Mexico. What's stopping us? It seems like it would be easier for us to take them over and try to fix that country than it is to have them destroying our country from the outside.
 
I talked to a guy from mexico the other day at the gym and he said that mexico is really putting a lot of money into stopping drug trafficing, and going after the large dealers really hard, he said that a lot of big timers are kinda sweating now in mexico cause the goverment is actually make a big effort to go after them and they are putting all their funds into this process, and thats why they can't waist the time and money and effort going after the guy thats walking down the street with a joint in his pocket! he told some young guys at the gym don't think that its going to be party drug haven there now cause its really not, if you do have more than whats legal now they will make an example out of your ass quickly, if you have 5.3 ounces of weed, that .3 ounces they will prosecute the hell out of you for it!
BUT HEY THATS JUST WHAT HE SAID, SO TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT
 
Mexico will never end it's own drug problems because the only people in Mexico with money are the ones involved with drugs. It's the drug lords, dealers and smugglers that have the power. They buy the police. If it's going to stop, America has to stop it. Their pathetic government and culture is turning the border states into third world countries as well. I think our government may be just as pathetic though because they allow it to happen. I know there was talk of building a huge wall along the Mexican border to help keep the fuckers out, I don't know what ever happened with that idea though.
 
i think out government is the same type of thugs. but instead of drugs and guns they deal in petroleum...........
 
BigBoyJ said:
Seriously. Why do we not take over Mexico. What's stopping us? It seems like it would be easier for us to take them over and try to fix that country than it is to have them destroying our country from the outside.

Bro,
Number 1 - our incompetent government can't fix our country.

Number 2 - They are taking us over and destroying us from the inside. It's a fucking disgrace that these illegal cocksuckers have the balls to protest against the USA in our own country and our government hides its sorry ass face in the shadows. These little scumbags have more rights then us. In very short while they are going to be a strong voting block.

Two years ago people (US citizens) where denied there right to public protest in NYC Central park because they said they didn't want people to walk on the grass( but they don't mind having a concert with 500,000 people) . Demonstraters along with regular people where being thrown in jail during the republic convention for what amounted to no good reason(noone was ever prosecuted out of thousands; on trial this week are 25 senior citizen women who may be sentenced to a year in jail for protesting the war in front of a recruiting center in Time Square. Last week millions of illegals were protesting in our streets waving Mexican flags and making fucking demands and there were no arrests. What the fuck is wrong with that picture.

Number 3 - Who gives a fuck what the Mexican government does, the're approach to the problem makes a hell of a lot more sense that ours. We let child molsters out of jail to make room for jerk offs like me and you. You got seeds in your car, your busted, you got coke resedue on money... your busted..... you get caught with some D-bol..quess what. Our government can't even keep drugs out of the prisons.

aaahhhh just had to vent
 
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I see what you're saying Vin, but at least if we just took the piece of shit country over, at least we would just have OUR countries problems to deal with and not the problems that they provide for us as well. If we don't take them over, I still stick with my simple solution....land mines and snipers along the border. I guarantee that would fix a lot of shit. Again though, our government wouldn't dare do anything to offend anyone. Well at least not anyone who's NOT a citizen.
 
I gotta agree with you stance on border control, just put some soldiers on the border. After the first shots are fired they go through the correct channels to be here.

If we're not careful we'll be one country any, I have a feeling our next president will be Presidente Vincente Fox. At least he knows how to protect his borders.
 
BIGBOYJ.. i understand your frustration but, lets look at it from our standpoint.. we would not stand for a country to tell us what we can and cant do.. mexico is no different.. if they are willing to flip the bird to us in regards to rec drugs, gear will not be far behind again.. they will be producing gear hand over fist again.. the only way we can do anything about it is to take matters in our own hands.. put troops on the border.. and treat it like it is.. illegal... thefunny thing is.. mexico caves to the usa in reagrds to gear.. :confused: but, how stupid were the mexico gear maufactures for sending gear in the mail to the usa?.. interstate trafficking.. of course the usa came down hard.. if the idiots would have just supplied the pharms like usual and kept out of the selling.. all would be well.. on a different point.. HOW FRICKIN HYPOCRITCAL IS IT TO PROTEST IN THE COUNTRY YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW IN? I MEAN.. YOU ARE HEER ILLEGAL.. LETS SAY IT AGAIN.. ILLEGAL.. AND YOU ARE MAD THAT WE ARE GETTING UPSET.. AND YOU SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH BREAKING THE LAW AND BEING HERE ILLEGALLY..?? I AM VERY CONFUSED ABOUT THE ILLEGALS STATE OF MIND IN REGARDS TO THIS...:confused: :confused: :confused: as for taking it over.. who would want to?.. i was just there.. it is a craphole.. we would just be supporting them.. then their problem is every families problem in the usa.. police the borders.. and be serious about it.. but, it will not happen.. the dems and the repub are scared to lose the spanish vote.. they talk tough.. but, nothing will happen..:(
 

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