Milos Responds To George Farah's Anti Insulin Comments

[madg]

My friend, you can get a pro card with out the insulin.

Too late now emeric my friend

Wish i knew you when i was 20

Respect

 

[emeric delczeg]

Many got it without ever using GH too.

Just depends on what mom and dad gave you

And discipline and dedication.

 

[emeric delczeg]

I am not suggesting to anyone to use insulin, however the insulin use it has been around before Milos even was in bodybuilding. It was used by Eastern Block athletes for faster recovery between workout, under MDs guidance. And the dozes was not 4, 5 or 10 IU, only 1.5 to 2 IU.

 

[warlock]

I am not suggesting to anyone to use insulin, however the insulin use it has been around before Milos even was in bodybuilding. It was used by Eastern Block athletes for faster recovery between workout, under MDs guidance. And the dozes was not 4, 5 or 10 IU, only 1.5 to 2 IU.

1.5 to 2 units a day? What time of the day? Post-workout?

 

[emeric delczeg]

1.5 to 2 units a day? What time of the day? Post-workout?

Only on the days when was 2 workouts, after training, post workout.

 

[IronLion2]

The same people that preach insulin as a weight gain hormone think cortisol does the same. Neither are true, hormones don't work in a vacuum and they dont break the laws of thermodynamics

 

[PYGMY]

I know that Balco guy was giving it to track athletes to help recover from intense training sessions. He didn’t state in the interview how much he was giving them but I’ve yet to see a track athlete with a ruined physique.

 

[mpjuice]

I remeber I used Trevor smiths insulin protocol back in the day. I just got fat as fuck. Like 28 pounds of garbage weight in 4 weeks and I felt like shit

It wasn't the insulin that made you fat, it was your diet.

 

[Gunsmith]

It wasn't the insulin that made you fat, it was your diet.

100% fact

 

[td]

slin is the most anabolic agent the body produces.

This is frequently cited as to why exogenous insulin should be used to induce hypertrophy. I wonder if some understand the term "anabolic."

Anabolism is simply a building process. Restoring glycogen is anabolic. Fat storage is anabolic. Conversely, glycolysis and beta oxidation are catabolic.

Some hear anabolic and inadvertently think building muscle because of the association with anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS).

The primary hormonal driver for muscle growth is testosterone not insulin. That's why on average, adult men have significantly more muscle mass than adult women. Even though women actually have higher insulin sensitivity when individuals are controlled for fitness.

This is abundantly apparent observing developmental athletes hitting puberty.

 

[KillerStack]

This is frequently cited as to why exogenous insulin should be used to induce hypertrophy. I wonder if some understand the term "anabolic."

Anabolism is simply a building process. Restoring glycogen is anabolic. Fat storage is anabolic. Conversely, glycolysis and beta oxidation are catabolic.

Some hear anabolic and inadvertently think building muscle because of the association with anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS).

The primary hormonal driver for muscle growth is testosterone not insulin. That's why on average, adult men have significantly more muscle mass than adult women. Even though women actually have higher insulin sensitivity when individuals are controlled for fitness.

This is abundantly apparent observing developmental athletes hitting puberty.

Good post.

Milos has said that if he had a bb on just one drug it would be insulin, it beats steroids. That's like saying if one identical twin is on insulin and the other on steroids, the insulin twin would be better and put on more muscle. I say no way, not even close
But the guy has tons of experience. Though I doubt he's seen tons of guys on just insulin.

 

[guest1337]

I'll never touch insulin, period. Even if I knew 100% the proper protocol. I have a friend who nearly died because he took too much of that shit.

Don't blame the drug for the users actions...
Plenty of people use it daily without issues, diabetic or not. Education of the drug is key to success. Improper usage can cause issues, as with most drugs or most things in general.

It's fine you're not comfortable, but don't demonize it because your friend used it improperly.

 

[emeric delczeg]

I know that Balco guy was giving it to track athletes to help recover from intense training sessions. He didn’t state in the interview how much he was giving them but I’ve yet to see a track athlete with a ruined physique.

2 IU .

 

[juggy38]

On the old dat b true boards MANY MANY guys were using small doses 2-3iu insulin post workout and eating carbless or trace carbs for 8-24 hours after the session

Recovery was dramatic compared to a low/no carb approach without insulin

 

[juggy38]

Lift, insulin, then an egg white/mushroom/onion scramble. I never died.

 

[johnjuanb1]

Lift, insulin, then an egg white/mushroom/onion scramble. I never died.

That sounds yummy. Haha I’ve been cutting for 4 1/2 months so I’m hungry.