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More successful with women on tren

I agree with most of what he put but a lot of those "girls" aren't worth a shit.

I don't think slice has ever been with a real woman and has had way too much time to think about this dating girlfriend-boyfriend shit.

When it comes to marriage he's wrong. In the sense that a woman, a loyal ass woman, (which I don't think he's ever had) will stand by you and follow threw anything. Some guys can't handle a real woman. They will be trapped in that single dating life forever or in and out of relationships for fear of commitment,

Long term marriage is not just about sex and attraction anymore it's about family and parternship. And that's not something you can explain to someone who doesn't have it or someone who doesn't want it, because they will just not understand.

I think slice has been conditioned by his surroundings. And while he does hold some interesting and true points it certainly doesn't pertain to all women like he would want you to think.

The last girl I dated openly admitted to me she cheated on her ex of two years before me. I decided to date her anyways...She was straight up about it. While you never know for sure, I don't think she ever cheated on me. Although I think this had more to do with her being scared I would ruin her life if I caught her doing anything. :D not because she was necessarily a "loyal" person. Being loyal to me is a lot more than not fucking other people while Im in a relationship with her. Keeping your word, following through on things, not telling your friends things I wouldn't feel comfortable with etc.

I think every woman is capable of cheating. All it takes is a bit of alcohol, an attractive guy, with the right game at the right time..... Only exception would be middle eastern women, armenian women, and many foreign women etc....they're values are different than American women and its hard enough getting them to open up in the first place.
 
Sounds like " A Brave New World"!

Of course it is all about balance, a bit of smarts and good looks. Too far on either side of the spectrum then there is little interest. I know I was that way with women. If I dated a girl that wasn't too bright I would usually put and end to dating because I wasn't really attracted to her even if she was really great looking. Now if I got drunk or was partying then I might have sex but I felt bad about it the next day. That's just me.

My first wife cheated on me and we divorced after that, I knew that there was no way I could ever trust her again. The guy she cheated on me with was just average build and not attractive at all. I was a lot easier on the eyes than him and much more athletic. He was an idiot too and had a shit job, lived in a really crappy apartment. She was attracted to him though because he treated her like a queen and told her so often how great looking she was, etc. He swept her off her feet. So in that case it definitely wasn't smarts or ambition/money that attracted her. He wasn't even attractive or muscular. Nothing.

The most important think to a woman is how a guy makes her FEEL about herself. Everything else plays second fiddle.
 
-sees the marriage is just signing your assets over
-can understand getting married after a certain amount of time passes


Wat

after 10-15 years if things are going great I can see why. shit wait, menopause comes, forget getting married:eek:
 
Only exception would be middle eastern women, armenian women, and many foreign women etc....they're values are different than American women and its hard enough getting them to open up in the first place.





oh you sweet summer child..
 
after 10-15 years if things are going great I can see why. shit wait, menopause comes, forget getting married:eek:



if marriage makes no sense.. i doubt it would make any sense after being together for 10-15 years lol..



a metric shit ton of my middle aged clients had their wives leave them this year.




alimony baby.. sweet, sweet alimony.


could be for life if they are in certain states.
 
Thank you little slice for sharing your insights, you have a great way of putting it.

I think some people don’t get what he’s talking about until you have experienced it first hand, then it’s like oh yea I get it now!! After being emotionally ,financially raped and pillaged and your kids taken from you.

So keep it little slice agree 100%

Maybe a few people will get it before it’s to late..

I’m still suffering at the hands of someone with BPD...
 
well first of all, men should stop pedestalizing women, and acknowledge them for what they are: simply the counterparts of men.

I used to use tinder, bumble, and other dating platforms, and SO many women talked about being treated like 'queens' and 'princesses'...'like they deserve'.

have you ever heard a man talk about expecting to be treated 'like a king' by women? it would sound very strange.

it was then that I realized that the women had essentially been conditioned to behave this way by men..

men, especially these days it would seem, are SO THIRSTY, that they will just about do anything for a whiff of pussy. this thirstiness is precisely the fuel that powers a woman's sense of what she 'deserves'.



and this perhaps answers why OP is 'more successful' with women while on tren.

I have found that tren (and other strong androgens) put me in a state of general apathy about others.

so, in addition to looking great, tren likely caused OP to not appear as a desperate, thirsty loser to the woman with whom he was speaking.

I wouldn't say that women are attracted to assholes, per se. BUT the mere fact that a man would playfully tease and taunt a woman instead of simpering on his knees for her affection would indicate to her that he is not concerned with gaining her approval.

and since he doesn't care about her approval, he must have access to better options, right?. in her mind, this means that he is above her in the sexual market place... therefore, she responds positively to him, because she is the one who is gaining via their association.

he appears 'confident' that he can do (and perhaps frequently does) better than her, so her hypergamy will draw her to him.


many men live life on their knees trying to win the love of a woman.. this causes many things to be backwards.



for example:

-men want sex
-women want commitment (and sex, obvi)


many men (at least the ones I know) are completely content with themselves and their lives. they have hobbies, careers, and they get sex regularly - from one woman, or from multiple different women.

women can play the game of promiscuity while they are young.. but ive noticed that my older female friends have NO HOBBIES... outside of wine and Netflix. they have spent so much of their time trying to gain the approval of very attractive men, that they never took time to develop themselves. they are, as south park would say, 'about as interesting as a wet carrot.'

and yet, it's men who are expected to pay thousands of dollars for an engagement ring, and fork out tens of thousands of dollars (and hundreds in the seemingly inevitable divorce) to GIVE a woman MORE commitment...

he's already getting all the sex he wants from her, so he's getting what he wants already... and yet, he gives up his bargaining chip for no additional benefits (and an enormous amount of risk to boot).




IMO, if things were not upside down, it would be the women who should be proposing marriage to men, because they are the ones who generally stand to benefit from it.


men are all too quick to sacrifice themselves for women... but they cannot be blamed, because it's how we men are biologically wired.


the continuation of the species requires that women are protected. women are biologically more valuable than men are.



but that doesn't mean that we have to set ourselves on fire to keep them warm.. as so many men seem prepared to do.

Good God brother, you need to write a book. Like for real. Since going on TRT, and HGH, I attract women like flies on you know what. Women can sense higher T in men. They can subconsciously smell it and they are attracted to it on a primitive level. In addition to that, women do not instinctually respect men who put them on a pedestal. Yes, they all want that, but once they have you there, treating like queen diva, they will look elsewhere.

You must keep a woman on her toes if you want to keep her fully content. Kiss her ass 24/7 and she will lose respect and interest. Be a fucking man and put her in her place every now and then. Women literally crave and need this.
 
Thank you little slice for sharing your insights, you have a great way of putting it.

I think some people don’t get what he’s talking about until you have experienced it first hand, then it’s like oh yea I get it now!! After being emotionally ,financially raped and pillaged and your kids taken from you.

So keep it little slice agree 100%

Maybe a few people will get it before it’s to late..

I’m still suffering at the hands of someone with BPD...

If you have kids with a BPD I can only imagine what you went through. The main reason I decided not to continue the relationship with mine was the fact that I couldn't see myself having kids with her when I found out she was a BPD.

The first time I tried to leave her, she threatened to kill herself. And ended up popping a bunch of pills to try and "make me pay for leaving her". She would go into rages and was manipulative beyond belief. She had no empathy for others and the mere thought of her makes me want to throw up. She used to talk about how superior she was to other women, the girl wouldn't even stand in line at a club because she believed she was "special" :rolleyes:

This chick was a legit 9 when I first met her... and fucked me multiple times daily. She was fun, adventurous, talented, and made me feel like the man....she idealized me and eventually devalued me when I found out what a piece of shit she truly was and started putting her in her place. It took every ounce of strength not to punch her in the face at times, and this is coming from a guy that has NEVER laid a hand on a woman. Fortunately I still haven't but yeah there were times when I Wanted to.

Unfortunately with these women you are already in too deep before you can leave because your so overwhelmed by the hot sex and being idealized you ignore the red flags.

Im out now and a free man...now I date women with no issues and life is so much better. Shoot me a pm if you ever need to talk about it....Ive helped a lot of guys get their life back after dealing with these women and Ive lived it first hand for two years. Until you've actually dated a BPD you can't really expect anyone else to understand. On the bright side, it makes you truly appreciate the good women out there.
 
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If you have kids with a BPD I can only imagine what you went through. The main reason I decided not to continue the relationship with mine was the fact that I couldn't see myself having kids with her when I found out she was a BPD.

The first time I tried to leave her, she threatened to kill herself. And ended up popping a bunch of pills to try and "make me pay for leaving her". She would go into rages and was manipulative beyond belief. She had no empathy for others and the mere thought of her makes me want to throw up. She used to talk about how superior she was to other women, the girl wouldn't even stand in line at a club because she believed she was "special" :rolleyes:



honestly.. this sounds pretty standard for young attractive women in general..
 
honestly.. this sounds pretty standard for young attractive women in general..

LOL....no normal chick pops a bunch of painkillers trying to kill herself to get back at her man.

Or tries to punch your best friend in the face...or views porn as cheating...or breaks a girls orbital and laughs about it.....or throws a water jug at your face giving you a black eye because you didn't take her out to dinner one night...or swings a knife around a public bar at people....or jumps out of a moving vehicle..or tries to run over you with a car.

Im in Hollywood, I deal with some of the most shallow women on the planet every day from instagram models to celebrities and wanna be celebrities and they still don't disrespect other people the way my ex did. BPD women are far from normal.

Have you ever actually dated a woman with borderline or narcissistic personality disorder? We are not talking about the average hot entitled chick here.
 
. Only exception would be middle eastern women, armenian women, and many foreign women etc....they're values are different than American women and its hard enough getting them to open up in the first place.

the days of this being true are almost over, the feminist plague has spread worldwide, if it hasn't taken over in a country it's making inroads. I've lived around the world and seen it but your chances of finding a quality girl are definitely higher in non western nations...If you stumble upon a good one abroad once you bring them back home, they quickly adapt to become what you were trying to avoid in the first place...find one abroad, leave her abroad if you want to her to remain the girl you like. Finding a girl from a different culture locally is no different than the local cuisine.
 
If you have kids with a BPD I can only imagine what you went through. The main reason I decided not to continue the relationship with mine was the fact that I couldn't see myself having kids with her when I found out she was a BPD.

The first time I tried to leave her, she threatened to kill herself. And ended up popping a bunch of pills to try and "make me pay for leaving her". She would go into rages and was manipulative beyond belief. She had no empathy for others and the mere thought of her makes me want to throw up. She used to talk about how superior she was to other women, the girl wouldn't even stand in line at a club because she believed she was "special" :rolleyes:

This chick was a legit 9 when I first met her... and fucked me multiple times daily. She was fun, adventurous, talented, and made me feel like the man....she idealized me and eventually devalued me when I found out what a piece of shit she truly was and started putting her in her place. It took every ounce of strength not to punch her in the face at times, and this is coming from a guy that has NEVER laid a hand on a woman. Fortunately I still haven't but yeah there were times when I Wanted to.

Unfortunately with these women you are already in too deep before you can leave because your so overwhelmed by the hot sex and being idealized you ignore the red flags.

Im out now and a free man...now I date women with no issues and life is so much better. Shoot me a pm if you ever need to talk about it....Ive helped a lot of guys get their life back after dealing with these women and Ive lived it first hand for two years. Until you've actually dated a BPD you can't really expect anyone else to understand. On the bright side, it makes you truly appreciate the good women out there.


BPD’s are extra crazy, and the hard part is if your not experienced you will not recognize them for who they until it’s to late, they put on a mask and disguise it...my x brainwashes my kids to hate me and she’s ruthless about it! Doesn’t give two shits what’s it’s doing to the kids as long as it hurts me she’s happy...
 
LOL....no normal chick pops a bunch of painkillers trying to kill herself to get back at her man.

Or tries to punch your best friend in the face...or views porn as cheating...or breaks a girls orbital and laughs about it.....or throws a water jug at your face giving you a black eye because you didn't take her out to dinner one night...or swings a knife around a public bar at people....or jumps out of a moving vehicle..or tries to run over you with a car.




ok.


well you didn't mention all of those other things before.. sooo
 
I agree with most of what he put but a lot of those "girls" aren't worth a shit.

I don't think slice has ever been with a real woman and has had way too much time to think about this dating girlfriend-boyfriend shit.

When it comes to marriage he's wrong. In the sense that a woman, a loyal ass woman, (which I don't think he's ever had) will stand by you and follow threw anything. Some guys can't handle a real woman. They will be trapped in that single dating life forever or in and out of relationships for fear of commitment,

Long term marriage is not just about sex and attraction anymore it's about family and parternship. And that's not something you can explain to someone who doesn't have it or someone who doesn't want it, because they will just not understand.

I think slice has been conditioned by his surroundings. And while he does hold some interesting and true points it certainly doesn't pertain to all women like he would want you to think.

Exactly, the good ones are out there. I met one shortly after my divorce and have been married now for more than 20 years. If we were to divorce, not going to happen, it would be me that would be getting the alimony!
 
what changes when you get married? do you love each other more? NO!!! what changes? besides signing your life and assets over? do people get married because that's what everyone else does? if a woman pressured me to getting married I would be gone the first day. men need to grow a set of balls. after 10-15 years together I can see getting married. I see guys after 1-3 years together getting married, the chances of that marriage working are 1-5 percent, you don't even know the girl until 5 years

Some of the reason lies in religion. You make a promise to God to love her till the day you die no matter how hard things get. It is a darn hard thing to do though when your spouse cheats on you. With my first wife I thought about trying to save the marriage but I am really glad now that I did not. I guess I broke my deal with God though when I did that.

My present wife though I actually met because of my first wife, so maybe it was just God's way for me. If it wasn't for my first wife I would have never met my present wife.
 
Some of the reason lies in religion. You make a promise to God to love her till the day you die no matter how hard things get. It is a darn hard thing to do though when your spouse cheats on you. With my first wife I thought about trying to save the marriage but I am really glad now that I did not. I guess I broke my deal with God though when I did that.

My present wife though I actually met because of my first wife, so maybe it was just God's way for me. If it wasn't for my first wife I would have never met my present wife.



you make a promise to God... ok, but why sign a providership contract with the state?


when it comes to religion - im assuming the Bible in this case, you need to apply the principle in it's original context.


sure, you broke your vow to God.. but she committed adultery, which back in the old testament, was punishable by death.


there was a time when women received consequences for breaking up their marriages... instead of cash and prizes.



there also was no state involvement in marriage.. there was no state at all.
 
Slicey, Has a woman ever asked you: "Who hurt you?"

:)
 

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