More Test vs adding NPP discussion

[kscowboy]

My buddies and i were discussing my next move for my cycle. Im 52 years old and run mostly trt but when i bump up, i keep it at a small dose compared to some. Right now im only on 200MG of Test, 100mg Deca, 1mg Anastrazole (All Dr prescribed......Deca is for joints lubrication) each week. I told my buddy i was going to throw in 300MG of NPP each week and keep the rest the same. He said why not just bump up my test to 500 (Keep the rest the same) and not worry about the NPP. I started thinking about his suggestion and now im on the fence. It does make sense in some fashion so i wanted to see what the vets on here think. No im not interested in Mast or EQ. I still have some Tren E which i have thrown in with my TRT in the past @100mg a week. SO whats yalls thoughts?

 

[dimethyl11]

Listen to your friend

 

[liv2pb]

Just bump the test imo

 

[luki7788]

I support - just increase the test

 

[bbxtreme]

Bump the test. You will see far more from it IMO. Also you would not need Deca with NPP.

 

[mexbeast]

For me, mentally it's more exciting and fun to use other compounds I would do both, increase test for 2 to 3 months and use npp or something else for another 3 months, keeps things interesting. Again it's just a mind thing for me

 

[A50#]

Bump the test. You will see far more from it IMO. Also you would not need Deca with NPP.

I know it not traditional or popular way to run it but a few times I've ran Deca instead of running a higher amount of longer acting Deca I ran 300mg of Deca and 300mg of NPP per week and really enjoyed it.

 

[nothuman]

I agree with the majority about just using more test than NPP if safety is your concern

 

[SOUR DIESEL]

►AT A GLANCE:

My buddies and i were discussing my next move for my cycle. Im 52 years old and run mostly trt but when i bump up, i keep it at a small dose compared to some. Right now im only on 200MG of Test, 100mg Deca, 1mg Anastrazole (All Dr prescribed......Deca is for joints lubrication) each week. I told my buddy i was going to throw in 300MG of NPP each week and keep the rest the same.

^^^so you'r proposing;
-200mg TEST
-100mg NANDRO DECA
-300mg NPP
-1mg ADEX

↑ here you'r more likely to;
-tank you Estrogen here
-encounter "erectile issues"
-encounter poor/low mood
-not have much/enough DHT from TEST to counter/protect from PrL sides
(..esp if your prone)

He said why not just bump up my test to 500 (Keep the rest the same) and not worry about the NPP. I started thinking about his suggestion and now im on the fence. It does make sense in some fashion so i wanted to see what the vets on here think.

^^^your "buddy" is proposing;
-500mg TEST
-100mg DECA
-1mg ADEX

↑ CLEAR WINNER between the 2 options

No im not interested in Mast or EQ. I still have some Tren E which i have thrown in with my TRT in the past @100mg a week. SO whats yalls thoughts?

^^^no MAST ..or EQ
→but YES on the TREN!!

..not even gonna ask

.

 

[JMAC 21]

I do exactly what you are suggesting with NPP minus the deca every spring/summer and I love the way it makes me look.

 

[Pizza15]

My buddies and i were discussing my next move for my cycle. Im 52 years old and run mostly trt but when i bump up, i keep it at a small dose compared to some. Right now im only on 200MG of Test, 100mg Deca, 1mg Anastrazole (All Dr prescribed......Deca is for joints lubrication) each week. I told my buddy i was going to throw in 300MG of NPP each week and keep the rest the same. He said why not just bump up my test to 500 (Keep the rest the same) and not worry about the NPP. I started thinking about his suggestion and now im on the fence. It does make sense in some fashion so i wanted to see what the vets on here think. No im not interested in Mast or EQ. I still have some Tren E which i have thrown in with my TRT in the past @100mg a week. SO whats yalls thoughts?

In my experience more Test is always better for everything, gains, feel good, everyday life etc etc. just keep your TRT and Deca and add on top TestE/C/Sust.

 

[Knight9]

I'd drop the Deca(youll drop the admin but it will still be with you for a while) and consider bumping test to 300-400 and adding npp at 300-400..especially if its only 8wks or so. Hell, I'm not sure how you want to run things but I'd even consider 500mg test and 400-450mg npp.


I should probably add that npp is my favorite compound ever when you take tren out of the discussion..and even then, it may still be my favorite. I have always said this since 2008 or so.

 

[qbkilla]

I'd drop the Deca(youll drop the admin but it will still be with you for a while) and consider bumping test to 300-400 and adding npp at 300-400..especially if its only 8wks or so. Hell, I'm not sure how you want to run things but I'd even consider 500mg test and 400-450mg npp.


I should probably add that npp is my favorite compound ever when you take tren out of the discussion..and even then, it may still be my favorite. I have always said this since 2008 or so.

What specifically about npp do you like vs just adding more test... strength... visual changes etc? I've halved my prop dose in the past and then replaced with npp but felt looked the same

Something like going from 600 prop ew to 300 prop + 300 npp, just seemed like a wash

 

[mexbeast]

What specifically about npp do you like vs just adding more test... strength... visual changes etc? I've halved my prop dose in the past and then replaced with npp but felt looked the same

Something like going from 600 prop ew to 300 prop + 300 npp, just seemed like a wash

Very interesting, it shows how we all respond differently to deferent compounds

 

[Knight9]

What specifically about npp do you like vs just adding more test... strength... visual changes etc? I've halved my prop dose in the past and then replaced with npp but felt looked the same

Something like going from 600 prop ew to 300 prop + 300 npp, just seemed like a wash

Strength AND the look. I'm naturally very strong so while test moves the needle, I could really tell on things like npp, tren, winstrol. The look was a bold roundness even without sub 10% bf. I also like the fact that it is not long acting so it works and clears pretty quickly.

From 2008-2011, I ran Npp 4-5x. Always 450mg or 600mg. I ran 700mg for a few weeks once but it was dumb because I did it on a rebound and there was really no need for it. I also ran it at 300mg at one point but my sweet spot was 450-600 with about 750 test.

I haven't touched it since but that's because I haven't done any cycles except for a random one in 2016..strictly been on trt otherwise. Every time I think of another 'run', I think of npp, primo, tren (not all together, but just as potential tools).

 

[Siggy]

Strength AND the look. I'm naturally very strong so while test moves the needle, I could really tell on things like npp, tren, winstrol. The look was a bold roundness even without sub 10% bf. I also like the fact that it is not long acting so it works and clears pretty quickly.

From 2008-2011, I ran Npp 4-5x. Always 450mg or 600mg. I ran 700mg for a few weeks once but it was dumb because I did it on a rebound and there was really no need for it. I also ran it at 300mg at one point but my sweet spot was 450-600 with about 750 test.

I haven't touched it since but that's because I haven't done any cycles except for a random one in 2016..strictly been on trt otherwise. Every time I think of another 'run', I think of npp, primo, tren (not all together, but just as potential tools).

Why did you stop cycling in 2016? What is your TRT dose?

 

[Knight9]

I stopped cycling in late 2011. (I had started in late 04 I believe with my first 3 cycles just being 500mg test for 8-10wks)
2006 I did my first stacked cycle with 750t, 400eq...both for 12wks and 50mg dbol for the first 8wks. Then I started competing.
2008-2011 I ran moderately heavy cycles which were effective and experimental and typically were in the range of 2grams total.

2012-2016 were trt (200-250mg/wk) or completely off.
*2016 I did a cycle with 800test, 800eq, and Serostims
Since then I settled in at a 400mg trt dose for a while(2016, early 2017)...went down to 300(2017), 250(2017), 200(2018-2021) etc while also coming off 2-3x....twice for 6mos. Never really planned to do these things except get to very realistic trt dosing in a 'use as little as possible' type manner. For the last 3 yrs from Aug 2021, I have not exceeded 150mg e5-7d.


I stopped cycling because I was cognizant of the risks and took a more focused approach on health and optimization. The few times I went off trt were never really intentional but snowballed from laziness or life circumstances and I always vow to never do it again when I realize it was a terrible idea and also when I'm starting back. Always in the depths of my mind, I had a perfect cycle or two left planned to run when the time was right but it's never been the right timing thus far.

Something like 600 Depo Test + 600 Primo and some pharma GH and perhaps npp, var or tbol sprinkled in.





I'm fortunate because my genetics and the base I have built allow me to maintain 240 at 5'8 and some change with very little Test and eating most what ever I want as long as I'm getting in enough food/protein.