"Mutation" stack

[ubermensch]

maybe hire someone to help you get ready. maybe come in harder and lose less muscle with a good coach.

 

[BigJB]

If you were trying to come in 10 lbs heavier than your last show -and much more shredded- think 15-20 lbs of additional muscle. Already experienced bodybuilder with 25+ years progresssively heavy lifting, and multiple cycles beyond you, what would be your plan? Note-cant afford lots of expensive compounds on a monthly basis, ie$300 for GH every month. Guessing $1000-1400 for 6 months budget. How would you do it?

cant.


would have to be able to afford pharma grade this and that considering you have been cycling for along time, and if u wanna "mutate," you would have to say side effects be damned and go tren, test, gh, insulin, etc.

cant have ur cake and eat it too.

 

[ubermensch]

i always did something like suspesion and drol or test/tren/drol when i was really trying hard to grow

 

[IronManRep]

First off, I'd home brew because its cheaper.

Then, I'd run probably

2g test
1g eq

As much gh as I could afford and insulin.

Home brewing is the way to go. Insulin and GH are the sugar on top.

 

[BigDM]

Test e or c - 1g+ wk
Tren e or a - 600mg+ wk
Dbol - 80mg+ ed
Slin - 15-20iu's around w/o's
Gh - 5iu ed

 

[intenceman]

Decided on this 14 week cycle
800 g Test (cyp-I blow up on this compared to other forms),
600 mg Deca (havent used in 6 years - previous high was 400/wk(,
GH 5 IUs EOD - never used.
Dbol 80 mg day (previously did 50 once) - first 8 weeks
Adrol 150 mg day ( havent used since 2005, did 100 mg) second 6 weeks.
PCT CLOMID, NOLVA- never tried.
Will be starting lean and ripped- circa 8%.
Have hypoglycemia so wont go near insulin.

 

[Knight9]

You have no idea what you're doing.

14 weeks of high dosed orals?
Set in stone dosages throughout without upping injectables?

 

[intenceman]

You have no idea what you're doing.

14 weeks of high dosed orals?
Set in stone dosages throughout without upping injectables?

8 weeks of one, then 6 weeks of a totally different one.
Dosages arent " set in stone". Can only type so much, lol.
Insulin isnt an option, and not spending 600 a month on this.

So keeping in mind that those compounds, along with SDMZ got me the best results- Eq and Tren were so so. What would you select for that run?

 

[Knight9]

8 weeks of one, then 6 weeks of a totally different one.
Dosages arent " set in stone". Can only type so much, lol.
Insulin isnt an option, and not spending 600 a month on this.

Apparently you are under the impression that switching from one high dosed oral to "a totally different" 17aa allows for your liver to take a break from the beating.

I'll let someone else chime in because this is very poorly planned....especially for your desired mutation.

 

[intenceman]

Apparently you are under the impression that switching from one high dosed oral to "a totally different" 17aa allows for your liver to take a break from the beating.

I'll let someone else chime in because this is very poorly planned....especially for your desired mutation.

You assume too much. Nevermind.

 

[Knight9]

You assume too much. Nevermind.

Assume? No, I'm responding DIRECTLY to what you layed out. 14 weeks of high dosed 17aa orals.

 

[intenceman]

Not going to bother with it. Thanks for the input, learned a lot.

 

[Johnny Smiles]

imo slin is a plateau breaker like none other (and gh).
-JS

 

[9muscle9]

Decided on this 14 week cycle
800 g Test (cyp-I blow up on this compared to other forms),
600 mg Deca (havent used in 6 years - previous high was 400/wk(,
GH 5 IUs EOD - never used.
Dbol 80 mg day (previously did 50 once) - first 8 weeks
Adrol 150 mg day ( havent used since 2005, did 100 mg) second 6 weeks.
PCT CLOMID, NOLVA- never tried.
Will be starting lean and ripped- circa 8%.
Have hypoglycemia so wont go near insulin.

Sounds interesting, I wouldn't use that high dose of orals though, it will kill your appetite, and I would swap the deca for tren instead.

Give it a go though, and good luck!

 

[ALLEX]

Insulin and HGH would make a bigger impact in your stage weight than all this gear.

Regarding your hypoglycemia, just take some honey or sugar after you inject and whenever you feel dizzy.

 

[Flex2019]

imo slin is a plateau breaker like none other (and gh).
-JS

Insulin and HGH would make a bigger impact in your stage weight than all this gear.

The two smartest posts in this thread.

 

[adam soza]

Yup. Slin, GH and a decent amount of gear is the way to go.

 

[Knight9]

100% agreed....but did not bring up slin because the OP ruled it out pretty emphatically.

 

[BigDM]

8 weeks of one, then 6 weeks of a totally different one.
Dosages arent " set in stone". Can only type so much, lol.
Insulin isnt an option, and not spending 600 a month on this.

So keeping in mind that those compounds, along with SDMZ got me the best results- Eq and Tren were so so. What would you select for that run?

Just curious as to why slin isn't an option for you? It's inexpensive and very effective. It's not death in a bottle. I started at 2iu's post and have worked my way up to 20iu's without any issues. I use Novolin R.

 

[Flex2019]

Just curious as to why slin isn't an option for you? It's inexpensive and very effective. It's not death in a bottle. I started at 2iu's post and have worked my way up to 20iu's without any issues. I use Novolin R.

Yep, and after "25+ years of bodybuilding", it's pretty silly to think that any dose of AAS alone is going to cause some kind of crazy transformation. It's going to take gear+gh+insulin, and even that may not induce the transformation he's looking for.