my boy just had his test levels checked........

[db006]

they told him normal was 500-600, his was 3000??? it was a urologist who did the test, cause hes trying to make babies. he said hes never seen it that high. he might use 750mg a week if hes lucky and has never gone over that. said it could take years to be back to normal, and hs sperm could still be low. but he made no suggestions of any therapy, pretty much told him the only thing he could do was stop and see. i dont believe that.

but is there any way it could be 3000????

 

[maldorf]

they told him normal was 500-600, his was 3000??? it was a urologist who did the test, cause hes trying to make babies. he said hes never seen it that high. he might use 750mg a week if hes lucky and has never gone over that. said it could take years to be back to normal, and hs sperm could still be low. but he made no suggestions of any therapy, pretty much told him the only thing he could do was stop and see. i dont believe that.

but is there any way it could be 3000????

Ive heard levels can be that high easily. Im not sure how it works, but thats not unusual for someone on test. I never had trouble conceiving a child while on, so I dont know that its something for him to worry about unless his sperm count was tested low. I was on 1 gram a week of test along with tren and EQ when I conceived both of my daughters. The first time my wife was pregnant within 3 months of being off the pill and the second time she was pregnant the very first month!

 

[PHIL HERNON]

WELL

they told him normal was 500-600, his was 3000??? it was a urologist who did the test, cause hes trying to make babies. he said hes never seen it that high. he might use 750mg a week if hes lucky and has never gone over that. said it could take years to be back to normal, and hs sperm could still be low. but he made no suggestions of any therapy, pretty much told him the only thing he could do was stop and see. i dont believe that.

but is there any way it could be 3000????

MINE WAS 4800 BACK IN 1996

 

[db006]

MINE WAS 4800 BACK IN 1996

does that automatically mean your sperm was low???

 

[VNV]

they told him normal was 500-600, his was 3000??? it was a urologist who did the test, cause hes trying to make babies. he said hes never seen it that high. he might use 750mg a week if hes lucky and has never gone over that. said it could take years to be back to normal, and hs sperm could still be low. but he made no suggestions of any therapy, pretty much told him the only thing he could do was stop and see. i dont believe that.

but is there any way it could be 3000????

What's the big deal? The guy is injecting himself with 7x the normal levels of weekly test, so he's plasma concentrations are 7x that of a normal person. And when he gets off juice, his levels will go back to normal or below normal.

 

[db006]

What's the big deal? The guy is injecting himself with 7x the normal levels of weekly test, so he's plasma concentrations are 7x that of a normal person. And when he gets off juice, his levels will go back to normal or below normal.

the big deal is his sperm is low. is that a direct result of a high test level? i would imagine. but people previous talk of conceiving while on. would hcg treatment help sperm levels. the dr offered no suggestion other than coming off. and then couldnt gaurantee anything.

 

[VNV]

does that automatically mean your sperm was low???

If you're not producing normal levels of endogenous testosterone, you're not going to be producing normal levels of sperm. If you're producing low levels or virtually no endogenous testosterone, you're producing low levels of sperm.

 

[VNV]

the big deal is his sperm is low. is that a direct result of a high test level? i would imagine. but people previous talk of conceiving while on. would hcg treatment help sperm levels. the dr offered no suggestion other than coming off. and then couldnt gaurantee anything.

Yes, hCG and hMG therapy would help produce more sperm, but only temporarily (i.e. during therapy and for a little while thereafter) if he's still on juice.

 

[MAINEVENT]

Yes, hCG and hMG therapy would help produce more sperm, but only temporarily (i.e. during therapy and for a little while thereafter) if he's still on juice.

Has this been proven, or is this what some believe? I've been trying to find some info on using HCG and HMG while on and its effects on sperm count.

 

[sweatandscience]

My one and only child was conceived while I was on the juice. Wife had taken fertility treatments earler in her life and had been told she might never have kids.

I'm no doctor, all I can say is that we had been trying for a while and the magic happened during week seven of my test/deca cycle. Maybe it doesn't make sense clinically, but it happened.

 

[MAINEVENT]

My one and only child was conceived while I was on the juice. Wife had taken fertility treatments earler in her life and had been told she might never have kids.

I'm no doctor, all I can say is that we had been trying for a while and the magic happened during week seven of my test/deca cycle. Maybe it doesn't make sense clinically, but it happened.

By chance, did you guys have a girl? It seems like very guy I know who has used and had kids have had girls......kinda strange.

 

[bigheinz]

does that automatically mean your sperm was low???

In most of the cases, but i know people that have pregned they girls just on cicle, so it depends how your body responds.

 

[maldorf]

By chance, did you guys have a girl? It seems like very guy I know who has used and had kids have had girls......kinda strange.

yeah, im hearing that alot. both of my kids are girls and were conceived while on a hefty cycle. Just about everyone I have seen that posts on boards about having kids while on has had girls. If it is a true relationship, then you would have to say that somehow being on the juice lowers your count of y sperm somehow, or that those sperm become less viable.

 

[db006]

yeah, im hearing that alot. both of my kids are girls and were conceived while on a hefty cycle. Just about everyone I have seen that posts on boards about having kids while on has had girls. If it is a true relationship, then you would have to say that somehow being on the juice lowers your count of y sperm somehow, or that those sperm become less viable.

so fucked up isnt it boys???? we are really messing with mother nature

 

[Trenababoon]

Damn I don't want a daughter, too much responsibility! lol. I hear clomid therapy for 3months along with sensible hcg usuage will help with the sperm count, generally Clomid on it's own for 3months should bring his sperm back to a point where he can concieve a child.

 

[thebrick]

There has been research done on using testosterone as a male contraceptive. It was successful in reducing sperm count but did not get it down to where it could be used as a reliable contraceptive

 

[shuntzu]

By chance, did you guys have a girl? It seems like very guy I know who has used and had kids have had girls......kinda strange.

I have two boys, both conceived while I was on 1000 mg of sust every ten days, no hcg, no clomid, no nolva.

 

[Putin]

There has been research done on using testosterone as a male contraceptive. It was successful in reducing sperm count but did not get it down to where it could be used as a reliable contraceptive

It only takes 1!!!!!!! So it doesnt really matter if the sperm count is low, if you got a strong one, it will make it to the END!

If he's having trouble getting his girl pregnant, it's not uncommon to take months for that to happen. Could also be the girl and not the guy. Let me know if I can be in any assistance

 

[TooPowerful4u]

Wait so levels can remain like this after you are OFF?????? someone please explain

 

[MAINEVENT]

Wait so levels can remain like this after you are OFF?????? someone please explain

I took those home tests and it took me about 6 months of being off before my sperm count was even readable on the test.....lol.

Some guys never return to normal and others quickly. So everyone is different.