My buddy, thinking about doing a show.

[Dubs]

a friend of mine is thinking of doing a show, the show would be in 10 weeks is what he said, i think. something like that anyway. it would just be a local show, juniors division.
what do you think?

 

[Dubs]

he is 16, almost 17 i believe. i think he started fooling around with weights at 14 or something. He has been interested in bodybuilding/seriously training for about a year now.

 

[tkav1980]

This is going to sound bad but...i dont think he will come close to a win. if he gets with the right trainer and gets his conditioning to a somewhat acceptable level its still going to be an ego bruise. that being said this sport is full of criticism. if he does it at least he will have the experience of getting on stage and getting his feet wet when it comes to true contest prep. the WORST case cenario is it is a learning experience. He should not be afraid to try and to fail. not trying is much worse.

 

[Dubs]

This is going to sound bad but...i dont think he will come close to a win. if he gets with the right trainer and gets his conditioning to a somewhat acceptable level its still going to be an ego bruise. that being said this sport is full of criticism. if he does it at least he will have the experience of getting on stage and getting his feet wet when it comes to true contest prep. the WORST case cenario is it is a learning experience. He should not be afraid to try and to fail. not trying is much worse.

This is similar to what i told him. I told him he probably wouldnt do too well.. even for a junior. he is 199 in that picture, 14% bodyfat. He has a good trainer.

 

[tkav1980]

just because he wont do well DOES NOT MEAN HE SHOULDNT DO IT! failure is one of the greatest learning tools. if you dont make a mistake you cant learn anything.

 

[Dubs]

just a bit more about him.

This is going to sound bad but...i dont think he will come close to a win. if he gets with the right trainer and gets his conditioning to a somewhat acceptable level its still going to be an ego bruise. that being said this sport is full of criticism. if he does it at least he will have the experience of getting on stage and getting his feet wet when it comes to true contest prep. the WORST case cenario is it is a learning experience. He should not be afraid to try and to fail. not trying is much worse.

5'10, 199 lbs, 14% bf.
waist: 31 inches
Arms: 17 inches
chest/back: 45 inches
legs: 27 inches

he plans to do the show around 180, around 6-8%.

 

[leanbody]

just because he wont do well DOES NOT MEAN HE SHOULDNT DO IT! failure is one of the greatest learning tools. if you dont make a mistake you cant learn anything.

Got to agree w/ Tkav - if he's into it it would be a great experience for him and he'd learn TONS! he just needs to be able to put it in perspective - he's just starting out in the sport, he's got a lot to learn and he should enjoy it to the max! BTW - looks great for that age too!

 

[Phidias]

If I were him, I would diet for the upcoming 10 weeks as if I was indeed prepping for that show, and depending on the results achieved in that time frame, either stay on the diet for a few more weeks to get REALLY lean and then start off on a good lean base, or do the show for a fun experience.

 

[rippedfuel]

I think your buddy would b a great candidate for some type of transformation contest. I think that is the proper term, where u take before and after pics. I sure he would do well, as well as building a solid foundation to compete later on down the road.

 

[shawnkarbabacz]

5'10, 199 lbs, 14% bf.
waist: 31 inches
Arms: 17 inches
chest/back: 45 inches
legs: 27 inches

he plans to do the show around 180, around 6-8%.

wow those are some pretty intense numbers for being so young. His waist is 31 in those pics? Not being a dick at all, just asking. IMHO, i agree with JC. He should diet like he is going to do it, get the experience, and even if he feels he doesnt look good enough to do it, at least hell be lean and mean for summer and have a lean base to start adding mass on again.

 

[GoneForever]

I dont see a point in him competing at that age. he should be slowly adding as much size as possible and take advantage of his naturally high test and GH levels now.

 

[natabolic]

the kid looks like he has built a good base. id have to agree with a lot of the guys here. tell him to lean down, see how he looks, CONSIDER doing the show, then bulk, while keeping as lean as possible.. not too lean.. around 10ish%.

that kid's body looks like my brothers, plus i think ive trained at that gym before... is he your training partner? his initials SJD?

 

[Dubs]

the kid looks like he has built a good base. id have to agree with a lot of the guys here. tell him to lean down, see how he looks, CONSIDER doing the show, then bulk, while keeping as lean as possible.. not too lean.. around 10ish%.

that kid's body looks like my brothers, plus i think ive trained at that gym before... is he your training partner? his initials SJD?

yes.. i told him what you guys said. that is what he was planning from the beginning. lean down, see how he looks, maybe do it.. either way he will have a nice lean base to start with again.

his initials are sjd. hes your brother?

 

[natabolic]

man, that is my brother haha.
training with him tomorrow?
tell him i say hello.
dubs, check your pm's.

 

[tflexxin]

just because he wont do well DOES NOT MEAN HE SHOULDNT DO IT! failure is one of the greatest learning tools. if you dont make a mistake you cant learn anything.

EXCELLENT point. Also, his bodyfat level makes it difficult to see what his shape looks like. Tell him GO FOR IT. What's the worst that can happen. He gets in the best shape of his life, has fun competing, and learns more about his body in 5 months than many learn in years!

 

[tflexxin]

Oh, can't do a show at 8% bodyfat either, unless he's competing in Bikini....

 

[GoneForever]

Oh, can't do a show at 8% bodyfat either, unless he's competing in Bikini....

Or unless he's like 280lbs

 

[Designbuilt]

I say that he should do the show, if he diets for Maybe doing the show, he won't do it 100%, it's all or nothing when it comes to dieting, that's the whole point in doing the show, IMO.

He may need something to really push him to be strict with the diet. That's the reason that I did my first show last year, otherwise I wouldn't have stuck with it.

He's still a teen at 17. The teen classes haven't been that though lately, they sure as hell aren't as tough as they were in the 80's and 90's. I remember my older brother competing as a teen in the 80's they had about 20 competitors per class!


Anyway, he looks great for only being 17, and doing his first show, would give him an idea of what the sport is all about and even if he gets blown away, it would make him train that much harder if he is truly meant for this sport. Because face it just about everyone gets a whoopin in the sport sooner or later.

Keep us posted.

 

[shawnkarbabacz]

Anyway, he looks great for only being 17, and doing his first show, would give him an idea of what the sport is all about and even if he gets blown away, it would make him train that much harder if he is truly meant for this sport. Because face it just about everyone gets a whoopin in the sport sooner or later.

Keep us posted.[/QUOTE]

AMEN!

 

[Dubs]

I say that he should do the show, if he diets for Maybe doing the show, he won't do it 100%, it's all or nothing when it comes to dieting, that's the whole point in doing the show, IMO.

He may need something to really push him to be strict with the diet. That's the reason that I did my first show last year, otherwise I wouldn't have stuck with it.

He's still a teen at 17. The teen classes haven't been that though lately, they sure as hell aren't as tough as they were in the 80's and 90's. I remember my older brother competing as a teen in the 80's they had about 20 competitors per class!


Anyway, he looks great for only being 17, and doing his first show, would give him an idea of what the sport is all about and even if he gets blown away, it would make him train that much harder if he is truly meant for this sport. Because face it just about everyone gets a whoopin in the sport sooner or later.

Keep us posted.

He is PLANNING on doing the show
he is dieting as if he would to do the show, very strict. hes being very strict with cardio, diet, training, the works. Everything is on track. I'm his training partner, so i keep him on track. not that he would go off.. he is very serious about bbing. His plan is to DO THE SHOW. he will be registering at 4 weeks out, if he feels he is on par with how he should be looking. I think its a good plan. But all in all, his plan IS to do the show