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My Current Supplement Listing/Schedule

Massive G

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Some of you that read Intense Muscle my recognize this thread (Massive G's True Protein Apothecary List- Potions, Pills, and Powders) I am bringing it over here for those who don't read there and for more questions, feedback and perspective on supplements to help others in any way I can.

I am going to outline my supplement list here for you guys and also answer any questions with in reason on applications/modifications to you guys based on age income and experience.

I believe commercial supplements are over used greatly in the sport and the appeal of the fancy ads and fancy labels leave many a young man with nothing but a lil pump and flush and lighter wallet.
What I will outline is the BASICS-that means base-what has worked for me and my clients and others over the years.

Some basics are left out of my stack as my goals are different, creatine is a very powerful tool, as well as high quality blends of MRP shakes (when a meal is impossible) and long acting protein blends before bed.

BCAA's are very beneficial centered around any time of catabolism-especially dieting and post work out. So in certain terms -things will differ when I give advice for those asking.

My protein of preference is Pepto Pro I usually will add 10 grams to a powerade and drink it in between meals or as a quick boost if tied up in a meeting or at my desk.

I like mixing my EFA's (Fish and Cod liver oil) with egg white protein-so that may be a shake option at night or in between a meal at home or on the road or weekends.

True Protein is my mainstay and has been since it's inception. I have never taken higher quality supplements and powders anywhere at anytime in my career. You guys are lucky, when I was at my peak -the bulk protein and carb supply business was in it's infancy and what was out there was low quality and poor customer service. I really could have blasted WELL past my peak with the arsenal of supplements available from True Protein.

Here is the list of supplements I take daily pretty much year round (there may be a few I forgot as I am approaching the big 4-0:

3 Multivitamin Mineral Capsules -1 cap 3 x a day
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washed down with 2 tablespoons supergreens 3 x a day
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Vitamin E 400 iu's

Vitamin D3 caps 2-4,000 iu's

Cod Liver Oil/Very Finest Fish Oil -I take the E and D with the fish oil.

Ester C 4000 mgs


Night time-before bed
Sleep Caps 2
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Mangnesium-500 mgs
Zinc -30 mgs

50 grams eggwhite and 10 grams Fish oil

Other supplements are centered around the pre and powo times

Pepto Pro
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Glycerol
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Glutamine
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Swedish Oat Starch
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Egg White Protein
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Now my pre-post work out mix looks like this (I make one large shake and drink about 1/2 30 minutes before with 500 mls water, then during the work out I will drink about another 1000 mls of water and then follow with the other 1/2 of the concoction below:
20-30 grams of pepto pro
100=120 grams or more of waxy maize
10-20 grams of L-Glutamine
a few pinches of sea salt
10-20 mls of Glycerol
Packet of True Proteins Krystal Klear (in testing phase)
1-2 grams of Stevia to really sweeten it up
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Oh yea-these shaker bottles are the bomb I think I have ten of them.
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I usually carry 2 around with dry powder in them and then can mix and go with simply adding a Powerade or Crystal Light.

Remember this is my current schedule list so read over it and you will see the basics are still there as well as staples of optimal growth (pre and powo shakes) (nighttime shakes) (Glutamine creatine) etc etc.

the major changes really are the addition of omega 3's and vitamin D, no much psuedo science or fancy dancy pills and pretty packaged powders cosing $60-80 a pop for dilute low quality sugary laden commercial junk for the most part.
 
gotta love the greens. alkalinity in the blood is a must. I prefer to eat them when ever possible.
 
MG-Can you give us a little more info on the supergreens?
 
cool read massive...i really gotta add glutamine to my list dont i!? i didnt see coq10 on there...there is a synergistic effect with the fish oil and coq10 that is pretty important to heart health...you should add in if not taking it
 
MG ive seen a couple of supps companies who sell vitamin D/ vit D2 / Vitamin D3 and then vit d3 with vit k2

how does it all differ??
 
peptopro is amazing worth the money for sure!
 
MG ive seen a couple of supps companies who sell vitamin D/ vit D2 / Vitamin D3 and then vit d3 with vit k2

how does it all differ??

the best Vitamin D to get is Carlson's D 3 Caps 2000 iu's
you always want Vitamin D3 (Cholecalciferol).

Vitamin D2 (Ergocalciferol) should not be taken even though Pharm companies push it like skittles..

"The case against ergocalciferol (vitamin D2) as a vitamin supplement1,2
Lisa A Houghton and Reinhold Vieth

1 From the School of Nutrition and Dietetics, Acadia University, Wolfville, Canada (LAH); the Department of Nutritional Sciences, University of Toronto, Toronto, Canada (RV); and the Mount Sinai Hospital, Toronto, Canada (RV)

Supplemental vitamin D is available in 2 distinct forms: ergocalciferol (vitamin D2) and cholecalciferol (vitamin D3). Pharmacopoeias have officially regarded these 2 forms as equivalent and interchangeable, yet this presumption of equivalence is based on studies of rickets prevention in infants conducted 70 years ago.

The emergence of 25-hydroxyvitamin D as a measure of vitamin D status provides an objective, quantitative measure of the biological response to vitamin D administration. As a result, vitamin D3 has proven to be the more potent form of vitamin D in all primate species, including humans.

Despite an emerging body of evidence suggesting several plausible explanations for the greater bioefficacy of vitamin D3, the form of vitamin D used in major preparations of prescriptions in North America is vitamin D2.

The case that vitamin D2 should no longer be considered equivalent to vitamin D3 is based on differences in their efficacy at raising serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D, diminished binding of vitamin D2 metabolites to vitamin D binding protein in plasma, and a nonphysiologic metabolism and shorter shelf life of vitamin D2. Vitamin D2, or ergocalciferol, should not be regarded as a nutrient suitable for supplementation or fortification.
 
That sounds like a lot of work, and a lot of dough.
 
Simple and effective... priceless info massive g. Appreciate you taking the time lately to post more. I know guys like you and Iabadman are giving up on this forum but I hope you choose to stay and contribute. I have read every single post of yours and guys like you since I 've been on the boards and cant thank you enough.
 
the best Vitamin D to get is Carlson's D 3 Caps 2000 iu's
you always want Vitamin D3 (Cholecalciferol).

Vitamin D2 (Ergocalciferol) should not be taken even though Pharm companies push it like skittles..

"The case against ergocalciferol (vitamin D2) as a vitamin supplement1,2
Lisa A Houghton and Reinhold Vieth

1 From the School of Nutrition and Dietetics, Acadia University, Wolfville, Canada (LAH); the Department of Nutritional Sciences, University of Toronto, Toronto, Canada (RV); and the Mount Sinai Hospital, Toronto, Canada (RV)

Supplemental vitamin D is available in 2 distinct forms: ergocalciferol (vitamin D2) and cholecalciferol (vitamin D3). Pharmacopoeias have officially regarded these 2 forms as equivalent and interchangeable, yet this presumption of equivalence is based on studies of rickets prevention in infants conducted 70 years ago.

The emergence of 25-hydroxyvitamin D as a measure of vitamin D status provides an objective, quantitative measure of the biological response to vitamin D administration. As a result, vitamin D3 has proven to be the more potent form of vitamin D in all primate species, including humans.

Despite an emerging body of evidence suggesting several plausible explanations for the greater bioefficacy of vitamin D3, the form of vitamin D used in major preparations of prescriptions in North America is vitamin D2.

The case that vitamin D2 should no longer be considered equivalent to vitamin D3 is based on differences in their efficacy at raising serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D, diminished binding of vitamin D2 metabolites to vitamin D binding protein in plasma, and a nonphysiologic metabolism and shorter shelf life of vitamin D2. Vitamin D2, or ergocalciferol, should not be regarded as a nutrient suitable for supplementation or fortification.

Vitamin D is actually a prohormone and one of the most effective supplements you can add to your diet that is very CHEAP for the return investment...

vitamin D
 
cool read massive...i really gotta add glutamine to my list dont i!? i didnt see coq10 on there...there is a synergistic effect with the fish oil and coq10 that is pretty important to heart health...you should add in if not taking it

I do have a portion of cardiac supps I take that I left out as younger guys won't really need them-
C0Q10 and Hawthorne Berry Boswellia and Cucurmin.
 
Simple and effective... priceless info massive g. Appreciate you taking the time lately to post more. I know guys like you and Iabadman are giving up on this forum but I hope you choose to stay and contribute. I have read every single post of yours and guys like you since I 've been on the boards and cant thank you enough.

Thank you. It's guys like you that keep me coming back to post to help others with my past and present...
 
That sounds like a lot of work, and a lot of dough.

My food costs me a lot more than supplements....a lot more...I probably spend 6-800 a month on food...
 
This is my current supplement program:

AM: multi,1000g C, 50mg B Complex, 200mg alpha lipic acid, 2 life support(Phil Hernon sells), glucosamine/chondrotin, EFAs, 3g of arginine, 800mg D, 75mg aspirin


MID DAY: 1000mg C, 100mg B Complex, 200mg Alpha lipic acid, 800mg D, EFAs


BEFORE WORKOUT: 2G beta alanine, 10 BCAAS, 10g glutamine, 2 scoops whey


AFTER WORKOUT: 2g beta alanine, 10G BCAAs, 6g ceatine, sizeon, vitargo, 10g glutamine.

NIGHTIME: antioxidants, 50g B Complex, 1000g C, glucosamine/chrondrotin, 800mg D, 200mg alpha lipic acid, 3g arginine, 2 life support, EFAs

Just curious if there is something you would add or take away.
 
Very good question Pesty. I would guess that THIS type of question is what he intends most of his threads to consist of.
 
This is my current supplement program:

AM: multi,1000g C, 50mg B Complex, 200mg alpha lipic acid, 2 life support(Phil Hernon sells), glucosamine/chondrotin, EFAs, 3g of arginine, 800mg D, 75mg aspirin


MID DAY: 1000mg C, 100mg B Complex, 200mg Alpha lipic acid, 800mg D, EFAs


BEFORE WORKOUT: 2G beta alanine, 10 BCAAS, 10g glutamine, 2 scoops whey


AFTER WORKOUT: 2g beta alanine, 10G BCAAs, 6g ceatine, sizeon, vitargo, 10g glutamine.

NIGHTIME: antioxidants, 50g B Complex, 1000g C, glucosamine/chrondrotin, 800mg D, 200mg alpha lipic acid, 3g arginine, 2 life support, EFAs

Just curious if there is something you would add or take away.

Looks lke a great plan to me very well thought out.

ALA is a great choice to add to a supplement schedule I probably need to add it to mine.

Arginine is really underrated for the role it plays in blood flow-ie pumps and CV health-another great choice.

I may add Taurine and Beta -alanine to my prework out drink as I don't use creatine anymore just due to personal choice and aging.

But like I said your schedule is very well thought out and will help to maximize gains...I wouldn't change much if at all.

I do take extra c and ester C as well which helps my calcium levels as it is buffered with it.
 
Very good question Pesty. I would guess that THIS type of question is what he intends most of his threads to consist of.

Exactly it opens up a window for people to see how other's use supplements as you can see guys like Pesty left no stone unturned and it's based on his goals and experience in the game.
 
How do you find the swedish oat starch compares to waxy maize?
 

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