My Experience w/ Vanadyl Sulfate...

[suppdude]

Going to do a week long comparison where I just use VS then next week will use Na-R-Ala and see how workouts go. I am only on hrt test that’s it . Will report back

I’m confused. Why are you so worried about VS or Na-R-ALA and training sessions? For pumps or what?

These products are simply used to aid in clearing blood glucose and aiding in insulin sensitivity.


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[suppdude]

Thanks for posting this. How have you run the VS? Do you remember how Datbtrue used to run it?

I’m using 200mcg CP and 10mg VS with each carb meal myself.


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[Marvin Martian]

That's interesting to know.
I tried vanadyl PH from sport pharma and swore there was something else spiked in it....results were amazing.
Tried some from universal a few years ago and didn't get anything from it...so maybe will try again based on your experience

There was definitely something up with the Sport Pharma vanadyl. Results weren just unlike any other “supplement” back then - other than the obvious spiked “Hot Stuff” - lol

 

[notorius]

Source Natruals brand.

The toxicity issues scare me. I can’t find shit on this stuff.
May just stick to NA-R-ALA.

Does ALA give you a better pump when taken pre workout with carbs?
Better vascularity?

You might want to switch to Ultimate Nutrition VS, I have tried almost all in the current market in the past years, of course none came close to the PH version.
The Ultimate N. did somehow show some decent outcome coupled with Chromium P.

 

[warlock]

I’m using 200mcg CP and 10mg VS with each carb meal myself.


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Thanks for sharing. I might try adding 10mg of VS to my carb meals.

 

[little slice]

OP is on a gram of tren ace a week and thinks he can notice vanadyl sulfate lmaooooooooooooooooo

 

[Andro308]

Nope Tren Ace is out of my system

 

[MR. BMJ]

That's interesting to know.
I tried vanadyl PH from sport pharma and swore there was something else spiked in it....results were amazing.
Tried some from universal a few years ago and didn't get anything from it...so maybe will try again based on your experience

Yea, this was the brand that Duchaine mentioned when he introduced VS to readers. Stuff was pretty good and noticeable on pumps.

On a related note, I've read tons over the years that there has always been crap VS being sold. Seems like it is still going on. I think I remember reading that even the Sport Pharma brand went to crap after awhile....though i'd have to go back and try to find or see if that was true it was so long ago.

 

[little slice]

Nope Tren Ace is out of my system

i just saw you pin tren ace

 

[thethinker48]

i just saw you pin tren ace

HOW WILL HE RECOVER?

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[maldorf]

There was definitely something up with the Sport Pharma vanadyl. Results weren just unlike any other “supplement” back then - other than the obvious spiked “Hot Stuff” - lol

Reminds me of this Yohimbe I bought back around 87 from the back of Muscle and Fitness Magazine. It came from Mexico and turned out to have methy testosterone in it. I wondered why I grew so much. I didn't know what it was and wanted to order more since the bottle was about out but then I read in the news paper about the place getting busted. I was only 17 years old at the time.


I used some of that Vandyl back in the late 80s and it did seem to produce affects, I just cant remember anything dramatic. Boron was another one.

 

[Love_to_Bodybuild]

VS is quite effective and testing using a glucometer can price this.

It can be toxic at a very high dose but studies have shown up to 100mg per day for 30 months, no toxicity issues.

But for the OP, you may be overthinking these GDAs and which is “best”. Get a glucometer and test these ingredients for yourself.

Research shows ALA can inhibit muscle hypertrophy via ROS around the training window but to what degree? Plenty of guys are taking in ALA along with other GDAs and still growing.


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what is ROS?

 

[MR. BMJ]

what is ROS?

Reactive Oxygen Species

 

[Andro308]

I’m confused. Why are you so worried about VS or Na-R-ALA and training sessions? For pumps or what?

These products are simply used to aid in clearing blood glucose and aiding in insulin sensitivity.


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Just wanted to see which was better as a GDA between an-r-ala and VS.


For pumps I am starting Monday going to take Cialis

 

[OutToLunch]

Had pretty good results with this product. Sold on amazon. Heard about it from one of Scott McNally’s podcasts.

**broken link removed**

 

[warlock]

Had pretty good results with this product. Sold on amazon. Heard about it from one of Scott McNally’s podcasts.

**broken link removed**

Looks like a good product though it's much more expensive. I wonder if it'd be worth the extra cost.

 

[aphextwin]

Doubtful that it's going to produce anything noticeable. Back in the day I would have wasted my money on something like this....I was a supplement marketers dream come true

 

[suppdude]

Just wanted to see which was better as a GDA between an-r-ala and VS.


For pumps I am starting Monday going to take Cialis

And how is training going to determine which is better? That is where I'm confused.

Just used a glucometer.

 

[Andro308]

So far really liking the Vanadyl Sulfate. Been taking 10-20mgs with each carb meal and 100mgs pre workout. Feeling sick pumps at the gym.
No bloat or stomach pains. No shits or gas problems.
I noticed I stay fuller longer with each meal.

 

[Muay Thai]

I took it with on a cycle before had some superdrol style pumps, it increased my awareness of my body toxicity at that time, i felt crappy