My Stress test and Immediate echo results. Interpretations welcomed and encouraged.

[socialdfan]

When I was on 100mg metropolol I couldn't function. Sleep was non-existent, achieving a pump was impossible, I couldn't get my heart rate above 100, I was gaining belly fat very quickly in a deficit, and restless leg syndrome-for me-was a real thing. I was a new human when my Dr permitted dropping it. Only sharing for those that use it to see if you have had similar experience on it.

 

[thethinker48]

Do you take 25 mgs of nicotine in pouches (Zyn) per day or 25 pouches per day?

The latter would make me question my own sanity for reading that

 

[Jacked_]

Do you take 25 mgs of nicotine in pouches (Zyn) per day or 25 pouches per day?

The latter would make me question my own sanity for reading that

I take 6mg pouches bro

 

[BLKGUY2006]

So how old are you??? You have 4 years of training??? Is that correct?? Why on earth are you running so much gear??? You look good but if it takes that much gear/money to be 245 at 6’2” then is it really worth it??? I mean something made you go into A-Fib and that’s not something to play with. You have two children you’re raising by yourself. At least come down to 500 mg of test and stay off the stimulant for a while. I don’t say this trying to be disrespectful, but with 2 kids, I would think of them and 10-15 years down the road. They need their dad

 

[Gizmo]

So how old are you??? You have 4 years of training??? Is that correct?? Why on earth are you running so much gear??? You look good but if it takes that much gear/money to be 245 at 6’2” then is it really worth it??? I mean something made you go into A-Fib and that’s not something to play with. You have two children you’re raising by yourself. At least come down to 500 mg of test and stay off the stimulant for a while. I don’t say this trying to be disrespectful, but with 2 kids, I would think of them and 10-15 years down the road. They need their dad

My guess is the 1000mg of thc (which is a crazy dose) is the main culprit of causing the afib with the stims being a contributor. But that’s just my guess.

 

[thethinker48]

I take 6mg pouches bro

25 6 mg pouches per day?

 

[Jacked_]

25 6 mg pouches per day?

Yea like 1 an hour

 

[R3aper7]

So I’m speaking purely from the perspective of a father. And I’d like to preface the rest of this post by letting you know, I have much respect for what you’re doing - finding time for yourself with children can be very challenging with a partner, and you’re doing it by yourself. I have other opinions on this topic but most have been touched on by others.

Im sure You’ve heard this many times - you might have 100 problems, until you have a problem with your health, then you have 1 problem. Except you - you actually have three problems, two of which need their father healthy. Cut back on nicotine, cut back on the drugs, stimulants and windows of unhealthy eating. This to me looks like you traded one addiction for another. Make sure you’re doing cardio - LISS. You can’t burn the candle at both ends my man. And NONE of this is worth your health. It’s not worth it even if you were competing - not with your situation. Get right for your kids man.

 

[NEMSZ]

No I was on vacation and only taking t3 and Anavar because I was worried about bringing oils pins on the plane and it was a month stay. I didn’t know what was happening and was in afib for 11 days. Resting hr was 180 for over a week. Flew home went to the ER they put me on Eliquis immediately and cardioverted me immediately after 2 days. Left the hospital that day on a beta blocker and sodium channel blocker. I could have stopped the flecainide but it makes me feel better knowing it calms all the electrical signals in the heart. I have a stressful life and that paired with a beta blocker my BP is perfect all the time and literally can’t get my rate above 145. This is a normal day for meView attachment 225905View attachment 225906

I’m still trying to get past the part where you had an RHR of 180 for over a week and decided to just continue with your vacation unbothered…

WHY not go to a local hospital wherever you were??

I don’t understand that?

Are you aware of how serious being in that severe of Afib for over a week is??

Your heart isn’t supposed to be beating at 180bpm for days/weeks straight, that’s major stress on the heart.

I’d say you’re very lucky considering the bad or even deadly scenarios that could’ve come from that reckless decision..

I’m not trying to be a dick here at all by the way, just telling it like it is, we’ve all done dumb shit before, but never once have I done some dumb shit where someone called me out and was being a sweetheart about it

Serious question here, not trying to judge, but were you ever a drug addict or have any kind of addictive personality traits??

I ask because it seems like you brush off the prolonged high dosage use (abuse?) of AAS and stims and seems like you’re trying to justify the continued high dose use (abuse?)…

As people have touched on before, you’ve got 2 kids, and you’re super young man, you’ve got time to hit your goals the right way.

You look great bro, for real, awesome physique.. But don’t be one of these guys who gets addicted, or acts on their addiction, and ends up with serious health issues in their 30’s and 40’s, or even worse, especially with 2 kids that need you..

There’s plenty of guys who’ve been down that road who I’m 100% positive they would take it back if they could..

Your body is already giving you warning signs.. No one is saying to drop to TRT forever and go back to an Abercrombie teen model physique… But dial it back, get your health in order and monitor yourself carefully and take calculated and meticulously monitored protocols from here on out to achieve your goals..

 

[bbxtreme]

I’m just going to post this here for anyone who needs a reminder…

 

[TripppleP]

My guess is the 1000mg of thc (which is a crazy dose) is the main culprit of causing the afib with the stims being a contributor. But that’s just my guess.

Yeah. That is a heroic dose. Anytime I have had an abnormal rhythms either marijuanna or alcohol was involved.

OP, did you have any alcohol prior to the. A-fib event? Even the day before.

I also think it’s insane to let 180bpm go for a week. I think these guys are giving some solid advice. It’s not always what you want to hear but we all want our fellow member to live a long life.

 

[bbxtreme]

@Jacked_ the answer that you don’t want to hear is that your heart does have lowered function. Do you have a previous echo to show EF prior?

The reality is that taking Flecainide and 100mg of Metoprolol is the protocol for a patient that’s had a heart attack with damage. Most people would be a zombie on those meds at that dosage.

Here’s the part nobody ever wants to hear- just because you are on those two medications does NOT mean you can keep living the same lifestyle. Meds aren’t a cheat code. They’re medicating something in your lifestyle that needs fixing.

If you don’t fix the lifestyle, cut the THC back, stims, Zens, vial of HGH and keep running cycles you won’t be around to keep living the stressful job you have or for your kids.

Call me blunt, an asshole or whatever… I don’t care to keep my mouth shut while we lose another member here. What’s it say about us if we all sit back and watch someone self destruct…

There’s a way to do it all and responsibly. My offer stands if you want to shoot me a DM.

 

[Neuro1234]

What’s it say about us if we all sit back and watch someone self destruct…

I feel as if this is the mindset more of us need to adopt here. Some sort of balance between “it’s your life” and “I’m trying to help you prevent a life altering mistake”

@Jacked_ im guessing none of this is what you had in mind when you posted this. You have a lot of pride in what you’ve accomplished in the last several years in the gym and that’s good, and even important. No one is discounting that. BUT. you’re not making a living doing this. You’re not someone with upper level genetics that’s going to be pro in a year. You’ve had to use high doses of AAS for minimal growth over 4 years, and high dose ancillaries to compensate for it. This isn’t worth it.

Listen to the older more experienced guys now, as you claim you did when picking compounds and strategies to get where you are now. Older and wiser is valuable because it provides perspective… which seems to be shared by seemingly all who are responding.

 

[Sectør]

Poor jacked man. Guy was so proud of his bloodwork. Didn’t know he was signing up for the ultimate roasting session

 

[Jacked_]

Poor jacked man. Guy was so proud of his bloodwork. Didn’t know he was signing up for the ultimate roasting session

the bloodwork’s not bad, and the reason I appreciate this forum is because there’s no filter. Slightly older audience that can talk sense into the younger guys that have similar aspirations but haven’t dealt with any or many consequences yet. I have some great takeaways from this thread. Plus pm seems to be a slightly older crowd, a lot of good info

 

[bbxtreme]

the bloodwork’s not bad, and the reason I appreciate this forum is because there’s no filter. Slightly older audience that can talk sense into the younger guys that have similar aspirations but haven’t dealt with any or many consequences yet. I have some great takeaways from this thread. Plus pm seems to be a slightly older crowd, a lot of good info

Glad you’ve taken it well. But seriously you should get on the @slesh protocol for a while. If we could all look like that on TRT+.

 

[slesh]

Glad you’ve taken it well. But seriously you should get on the @slesh protocol for a while. If we could all look like that on TRT+.

BB making me blush. But real talk - why are you on 1.6 grams of gear for a cut? You’re putting so much unnecessary stress on your body. What’s the end game here?

 

[slesh]

I feel as if this is the mindset more of us need to adopt here. Some sort of balance between “it’s your life” and “I’m trying to help you prevent a life altering mistake”

@Jacked_ im guessing none of this is what you had in mind when you posted this. You have a lot of pride in what you’ve accomplished in the last several years in the gym and that’s good, and even important. No one is discounting that. BUT. you’re not making a living doing this. You’re not someone with upper level genetics that’s going to be pro in a year. You’ve had to use high doses of AAS for minimal growth over 4 years, and high dose ancillaries to compensate for it. This isn’t worth it.

Listen to the older more experienced guys now, as you claim you did when picking compounds and strategies to get where you are now. Older and wiser is valuable because it provides perspective… which seems to be shared by seemingly all who are responding.

Echoing this. Not trying to sound like a hypocrite. I been there myself. Guess I’m just here to say you don’t need all of the above for the physique you’re trying to achieve.

 

[Neuro1234]

I been there myself.

Most, if not all, have been there. But if the last 6 months have taught me anything, it’s that aggressive patience (credit @bbxtreme ) is wildly effective when your checking all your boxes, and not trying to make up for the boxes you’re not checking with various drugs.

 

[Knight9]

@Jacked_
You will be very surprised and likely satisfied with what 150-250mg/wk of Test can do and maintain while you get your health in order. Try something like 50-80mg 3x/wk. Manage expectations...feel better in health and peace of mind.

Get healthy...you have a new goal to be proud of on the quest to achieving it and you will be healthier for your children. I look forward to reading updates on you and your health.