my thoughts on cycles!

[mexbeast]

first of i can't understand why guys keep asking, "take a look at my cycle" does this cycle look ok" "what do you think of this cycle" if you decide to do a cycle do you really need some one to tell you "yea your cycle look good"? here is what i think.
aas and effective doses. deca,eq,primobolan, effective dose starts @ 2mgs/bl of body weight so a typical 200-220 bl bbr would need 400mgs per week.
test any ester, effective dose starts @ 200mgs per week, same for masteron, and trenbolone.
b-bol effective dose starts @ 10mgs same for stanozolol, oxandrolone, fluoxymasteron,[halotestin] anadrol effective dose starts @ 25mgs same for proviron
a good cycle for a first timer would be 400mgs of deca of eq or primobolan plus an oral if desired,
a good precontest cycle would be 300-500mgs of either masteron or trenbolone plu 10-20mgs oxandrolone or 25-50mgs stanozolol remember to consult with your doc before stating any new drug!!! this is for entertaining purpose only please follow the laws of your country!

 

[RESTLESS1]

first of i can't understand why guys keep asking, "take a look at my cycle" does this cycle look ok" "what do you think of this cycle" if you decide to do a cycle do you really need some one to tell you "yea your cycle look good"? here is what i think.
aas and effective doses. deca,eq,primobolan, effective dose starts @ 2mgs/bl of body weight so a typical 200-220 bl bbr would need 400mgs per week.
test any ester, effective dose starts @ 200mgs per week, same for masteron, and trenbolone.
b-bol effective dose starts @ 10mgs same for stanozolol, oxandrolone, fluoxymasteron,[halotestin] anadrol effective dose starts @ 25mgs same for proviron
a good cycle for a first timer would be 400mgs of deca of eq or primobolan plus an oral if desired,
a good precontest cycle would be 300-500mgs of either masteron or trenbolone plu 10-20mgs oxandrolone or 25-50mgs stanozolol remember to consult with your doc before stating any new drug!!! this is for entertaining purpose only please follow the laws of your country!

this is jmo but wouldnt a better first cycle for a first timer be just a simple test cycle......i personally wouldnt encourage the use of deca - eq -primobolan or an oral for a first cycle.....start off by keeping it simple and see how you respond......just my .02

 

[cage99]

The first cycle is the best oppurtunity to grow the most, providing your diet and training are in line! A stack would be great along with an oral to kickstart and end! Take advantage of those virgin receptors!!!! For me..

600mg/wk - Cyp., Ethante, or Iso
500mg/wk - EQ
40mg D-bol for the 1st 4 weeks
50mg Winny for the final 4 weeks

I did this exact cycle for a first timer and swelled up like a tick. 38lbs to be exact!

Cage

 

[ballennonstop]

Cage, that's a good cycle-if it's your 5th! What are you going to do down the road when your body stops responding to a handful of aas at mod dosages?

I agree with Restless, a good first cycle is Test 300mg/wk.

Mex I agree with your 2mg x bw per week approach for EQ, Deca, Primo but why do you say 10-20mg Anavar or 25-50mg Winstrol? Var and Winny seem to demand a very similar dosage in my experience. ie 50mg of var, 50mg winny, 25mg of proviron, etc.

 

[Creation]

hey

Cage

did.you.split.up.test.and.eq.shots.into.2.times.a.week?

 

[mexbeast]

back in the 90's when anavar was only available in 2.5-5mg strength and very expensive people ware taking only a few tablets and getting good results. so why take more? will taking 70-100mgs double your gains?

 

[5004paloma]

I have to agree with ballennonstop and Restless. I haven't run my first AAS cycle but it's going to be a simple Test E cycle to see how I respond. I made the mistake with peptides running two types of IGF and Tyric 6. I've gained size but don't know what caused it...

 

[mexbeast]

well, we all know test is best; but if your first cycle is mild then on your 2nd you can go with something like 250-500mgs test and 10-20mgs d-ball and your gains will still be better than your first cycle, does that make sense? but if your first cycle is 500mgs test+100-200mgs a-droll then what? on your 2nd cycle you would need much higher doses. makes sense? by the way there is a reason why i posted this on the beginners thread.

 

[andy_27]

this is jmo but wouldnt a better first cycle for a first timer be just a simple test cycle......i personally wouldnt encourage the use of deca - eq -primobolan or an oral for a first cycle.....start off by keeping it simple and see how you respond......just my .02

hi bro why not 1st cycle oral?

 

[RESTLESS1]

hi bro why not 1st cycle oral?

keep it simple......see how you respond......my firsy cycle was test@500MG/WEEK.......i made very good gains.....if i recall correctly i gained around 25 pounds....of course not all muscle but did manage to keep about 16 pounds.....imo test is the only compound needed for a first cycle.....if you do have problems there will be no question what the problem is.....no matter what you choose be careful......remember....using aas is a marathon not a sprint..........pm if i can ever help you with any questions