Nandrolone only hrt

[F0cus]

I have a clinic I am in contact with that says many of their clients are using nandrolone only with a small amount of injectable estradiol for hrt. They are saying many people feel much better on nandrolone than on test and that the some of the side effects a lot of people get on test (hair loss, acne) are mitigated with nandrolone hrt. Would love to hear some thoughts on this.

 

[Ranchhand]

Nandrolone and injected estradiol makes no sense for TRT for a man, maybe a woman. What is their reasoning?? They have to have a reason that makes sense to them for prescribing this for male TRT. I would think it's a recipe for shitty sides for a male. Ie: too high of estradiol levels creating moodiness, no libido with ED for a couple of potentials. Hair loss and acne on 175 - 200mg/wk of Test for TRT I would assume is rare. Maybe a rare male that has an abnormally higher than normal conversation of Testosterone to other hormones, like DHT conversion. This is where a clinic might recommend a different than straight Testosterone replacement for TRT/HRT. Maybe you can elaborate more on their reasoning and hopefully someone more verse on the board with HRT protocols can chime in.

 

[buck]

Only one way to find out.
Is many clients 1% or 50%.
If you don't have a secret sauce then you are just run of the mill and not a stand out. Doesn't make for good marketing.
But i suppose if you try their secret recipe and it doesn't work they would be willing to work with a person to get them back on track and charge for that too.
Seems i remember some bodybuilders many decades ago doing deca only but it didn't seem to catch on.

 

[Alzadosghost]

Iv ran lots of deca only cycles and they were great and I kept the most tissue from them too over any other cycle. But I wouldn’t use deca for trt because its progesterone wich is a primarily female hormone. Only one way to find out but there’s no reinventing the wheel here. Sounds like more snake oil trash. But what do I know….

 

[thethinker48]

We live in an era of hyper optimization

People are looking to solve issues that don't exist. If testosterone can't be dialed in at a TRT replacement in an individual for optimal health and performance, then the rest of the anabolic might as well book an international trip to Antarctica

P.S- I turned 30, I think I joined this forum a decade ago, man I'm getting old and sounding like an old man lol

 

[Alzadosghost]

We live in an era of hyper optimization

People are looking to solve issues that don't exist. If testosterone can't be dialed in at a TRT replacement in an individual for optimal health and performance, then the rest of the anabolic might as well book an international trip to Antarctica

P.S- I turned 30, I think I joined this forum a decade ago, man I'm getting old and sounding like an old man lol

Old and wise are not the same thing brotha. Old is just old. Im
Fucking old lol

 

[nothuman]

I don’t understand why people would try to avoid testosterone. I mean yea I guess Deca and oral estradiol could feasibly work but why choose it over Testosterone?

 

[Alzadosghost]

I have kids olde then you lol

 

[thethinker48]

Old and wise are not the same thing brotha. Old is just old. Im
Fucking old lol

I guess it's all relative lol

I just see broccoli kids in the gym and store and shake my head

 

[gains4000]

Nandrolone -> 5AR -> DHN.
DHN binds the androgen receptor weakly, acts more progestogenic than androgenic, and screws with libido and hormonal balance, which is why it’s a bitch for sex drive and HRT.

Testosterone, Trestolone Acetate and Proviron are really the only drugs that can be used for Male HRT in my experience.

 

[nziegs11]

Anytime I’ve gone higher nandrolone than test my sex drive goes into the garbage. Wasn’t a fan personally.

 

[massephase]

They are saying many people feel much better on nandrolone than on test

I have trouble believing this, but yeah man, try it out. You'll know soon enough

 

[specter]

i tried the whole "nandrolone only" cycle, ran 2100mg NPP, 300mg ed, first i went with 0 test for like 6 weeks to be sure it was all out, then over on NPP and like first 4 weeks felt fine and then whole shit i felt like absolute shit, depressed etc... no fun at all, had 0 libido, i could get erections always been able to even on 0 test, but the sex drive was dead as fuck. Never ever again..

 

[Siggy]

i tried the whole "nandrolone only" cycle, ran 2100mg NPP, 300mg ed, first i went with 0 test for like 6 weeks to be sure it was all out, then over on NPP and like first 4 weeks felt fine and then whole shit i felt like absolute shit, depressed etc... no fun at all, had 0 libido, i could get erections always been able to even on 0 test, but the sex drive was dead as fuck. Never ever again..

You blasted the fuck outta that NPP. How were the gains?

 

[specter]

You blasted the fuck outta that NPP. How were the gains?

Gains where ok, dryer then pure test so not overly bloated etc since estrogen prob was pretty low on account of Nandrolone low conversion, but i just felt like shit. I would any day take 2100mg test over 2100mg nandrolone if i had to choose.

 

[Duke309]

Gains where ok, dryer then pure test so not overly bloated etc since estrogen prob was pretty low on account of Nandrolone low conversion, but i just felt like shit. I would any day take 2100mg test over 2100mg nandrolone if i had to choose.

What people seem to ignore is that nandrolone without test can reduce side effects, but it doesn't remove the mental fuckery if you are sensitive to it.

 

[dieselbuilder]

Recently while searching for something that I cannot recall I came across some old threads that covered this. I think a former member type-IIx was part of the discussion

Try it and report back for anyone who might want to do it in the future.

 

[bdad]

When I started working years ago most of my cycle were deca/dbol.

 

[dexitrim]

I sometimes get blasted online for admitting this, but with the exception of this year, I usually run a no-Test blast with just EQ and Deca, working up to around a gram of each per week for about 16 weeks. No problems at all. E2 stays in the twenty range. Now that I'm running GH and have read that you need a little more e2 to convert to IGF-1 optimally, I would probably add in some test next time. Maybe I should experiment both ways while on GH.

Also, I've been having issues with high PSA levels for the last few years (high 6-7 range), as well as all the issues that come with BPH. Finally made an appt with a urologist and am expecting an ultrasound to see if a biopsy is necessary. If no cancer, I thought maybe trying to do a nandrolone trt to see if it helps with BPH.

 

[pimpman]

I have kids olde then you lol

me too