Need help composing a bulking cycle.

shearerr · Sep 2, 2014

I'm planning to start bulking cycle composed of Tren Enanthate, Turinabol, Test prop, test cypionate and winstrol. Nevertheless i have wide flexibility and can consider different approach if anyone has a better idea for a clean bulking cycle.

weeks 1-4 Test Prop 100mg EOD
weeks 1-4 Turinabol 80mg ED
Weeks 1-16 Test Cypionate 400 mg a week
weeks 1-12 Trenbolone Enanthate 300mg a week
Weeks 8-12 Turinabol 100mg ED
Weeks 12-16 Winstrol 60mg ED

Rome1 · Sep 2, 2014

shearerr said:
I'm planning to start bulking cycle composed of Tren Enanthate, Turinabol, Test prop, test cypionate and winstrol. Nevertheless i have wide flexibility and can consider different approach if anyone has a better idea for a clean bulking cycle.

weeks 1-4 Test Prop 100mg EOD
weeks 1-4 Turinabol 80mg ED
Weeks 1-16 Test Cypionate 400 mg a week
weeks 1-12 Trenbolone Enanthate 300mg a week
Weeks 8-12 Turinabol 100mg ED
Weeks 12-16 Winstrol 60mg ED

Age, height, weight, bf, goals?

little slice · Sep 2, 2014

id drop orals and run test higher, just me tho

shearerr · Sep 2, 2014

age 27
weight 200 pounds
height 5feet 10
body fat around 15%
goal clean bulk 15-20 pounds

ForkLift · Sep 2, 2014

Me personally, I would also raise the test cyp to AT LEAST 500!

something to look into:
I have no experience with tren, however I plan my first go with it very soon.
A lot of PROS are going with low test high tren. Like 250mg/test cyp week and 450 Tren a week. IDK i heard that this method allows all your receptors to soak up the tren. When u have the test high, the more test fills into those receptors and u don't get the most out of the tren. With more tren and less test. You fully utilize all of the tren. I also heard that this method makes TRen sides very easy to handle. but lieki said this is all stuff ive been studying for my tren cycle, i have not used tren yet.

Winny i would drop, seems like to much orals on your liver. Plus i heard T-bol is pretty good and keeping you growing nicely. I don't see any need for the added stress to your liver with the winny.

Mast Eth i would add in some Masteron, thats just me tho, i love it and will run it in every every i do. 400-600mgs a week. 400 should be fine. Will give you more of a leaner/less bloated Bulk. Not a nessisary tho.

ForkLift · Sep 2, 2014

id go

weeks 1-4 Test Prop 100mg EOD
weeks 1-4 Turinabol 80mg ED
Weeks 1-16 Test Cypionate 500 mg a week
weeks 1-12 Trenbolone Enanthate 300mg a week, or maybe 400/week
Weeks 8-12 Turinabol 100mg ED
Weeks 1- 16 Mast E 400mgs a week

or

weeks 1-4 Test Prop 100mg EOD
weeks 1-4 Turinabol 80mg ED
Weeks 1-16 Test Cypionate 200 mg a week
weeks 1-12 Trenbolone Enanthate 400mg a week
Weeks 8-12 Turinabol 100mg ED
Weeks 1- 16 Mast E 400mgs a week

Mast is great for a nice lean bulk

Rome1 · Sep 2, 2014

The only thing that will dictate your bulk being clean is your diet no matter what you take. I don't know how many cycles you have under your belt but what you have laid out is way to complicated. All you need is 500 mg cyp a week, add your oral Tbol-40 mg day to kick it off for the first 4 weeks and after you drop the orals, add 150 mg/week Tren if anything but use Ace instead as it's much faster and if you can't tolerate it you simply just drop it so it's out of your system. If you can tolerate that after a few weeks bump to 300 mg.

Diet-3500 cals clean with 2 junk meals a week. 300 gr protein, 350 gr carbs, 100 gr fat. Obviously this is just a base. If this keeps you lean stay there if not subtract some carbs/fat, if you are gaining ride it out until you stop and then add more cals.

Simple and effective

red5150 · Sep 2, 2014

Test Decca dbol that will be $1500 thank you.

emeric delczeg · Sep 3, 2014

shearerr said:
age 27
weight 200 pounds
height 5feet 10
body fat around 15%
goal clean bulk 15-20 pounds

For how long you been working out naturally?

ForkLift · Sep 3, 2014

Rome1 said:
The only thing that will dictate your bulk being clean is your diet no matter what you take. I don't know how many cycles you have under your belt but what you have laid out is way to complicated. All you need is 500 mg cyp a week, add your oral Tbol-40 mg day to kick it off for the first 4 weeks and after you drop the orals, add 150 mg/week Tren if anything but use Ace instead as it's much faster and if you can't tolerate it you simply just drop it so it's out of your system. If you can tolerate that after a few weeks bump to 300 mg.

Diet-3500 cals clean with 2 junk meals a week. 300 gr protein, 350 gr carbs, 100 gr fat. Obviously this is just a base. If this keeps you lean stay there if not subtract some carbs/fat, if you are gaining ride it out until you stop and then add more cals.

Simple and effective

red5150 said:
Test Decca dbol that will be $1500 thank you.

I agree. honestly the simplier the better. I would honestly drop the Test prop all together, cuz as Rome said , you are already kickstarting it with tbol. Since we dont know ur cycle history? I would and am personally going to have my first go with Tren Ace for the reason Rome stated above.

example my first .... FUTURE TREN CYCLE
Test P -250wk
Tren A -350wk
Mast P -400wk
This way I can tweak things easily and quickly.
I've heard good things about low test high tren.