new and need help

[mrsoul]

I AM NEW TO THIS FORUM AND TO USING GEAR. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS OVER LIVER DAMAGE AND OTHER SIDE EFFECTS. I HAVE WORKED OUT ON AND OFF FOR YEARS, BUT HAVE GOTTEN QUITE OUT OF SHAPE. I HAVE BEEN BACK IN THE GYM FOR A LITTLE OVER A MONTH NOW AND ALTHOUGH I AM GETTTING STRONGER QUICKLY, THE FAT LOSS IS SLOW. ALSO I HAVE HEPATITAS C FROM A DRUG ADDICTION. I HAVE BEEN CLEAN FOR OVER 5 YEARS AND MY LIVER ENZYMES ARE NORMAL. THE CYCLE I PLAN ON DOING CONSISTS OF PRIMBOL, WINSRTOL, CLENBUTEROL AND CLOMID. IT IS AN 8 WEEK CYCLE. HOW DANGEROUS WOULD ONE CYCLE BE, AND HOW MUCH FAT CAN I EXPECT TO LOOSE. THE CYCLE IS ALL ORAL AND WOULD GO LIKE THIS,
PRIMBOL, WK1 200MG, WK 2, 200, WK 3, 300, WK 4, 400, WK 5, 300, WK 6 200, WK 7 200
WINSTROL WK 1 15 A DAY, WK 2 20 A DAY, WK 3 25 A DAY, WK 4 30 A DAY
WK 5 25 A DAY, WK 6 20 A DAY, WK 7 15 A DAY,
CLENBUTEROL WK 5 60 A DAY, WK 6 80 A DAY, WK 7 100 A DAY,
CLOMID WK 7 100 A DAY, WK 8 50 A DAY.
PLEASE HELP.

 

[BigBoyJ]

If you're gonna do it, I'd stay away from orals period. Just something very simple would do. Test and eq maybe. You don't need special gear to make the fat loss easier. The diet does that. I'd say just stick with injectables, but before you do anything, make sure your diet is what it should be.

 

[violentmessiah]

I agree

stay away from the orals if you've got hepatitis.
Test and Eq is a good idea...
for FAT-LOSS you could consider a low dose of t-3 along with the anabolics.
Remember, the drugs HELP, but diet and training (including cardio) are how you lose weight and keep it off.

 

[mrsoul]

OH WELL

WAS HOPING TO STAY AWAY FROM NEEDLES, BUT IF IT IS THAT MUCH HEALTHIER I WILL HAVE TO MAKE DO. CAN YOU SUGGEST A CYCLE WITH THESE, HOW LONG AND AND HOW MUCH OF EACH A WEEK? DO I NEED CLOMID POST CYCLE? THANKS

 

[Ashop]

Yes,,stay away from orals if you have hepatitis.

 

[mrsoul]

ALREADY ORDERED

THANKA ALIN. THE PROBLEM IS I HAVE ALREADY PLACED AN ORDER WITH YOU 2 DAYS AGO. IS IT TOO LATE TO CHANGE IT?

 

[violentmessiah]

because you're just starting

I would recommend something like
A. 400mg test enanthate/week
B. 200mg test enanthate/week and 400mg/ equipoise/week

Add in T3 if you'd like, there' LOTS of good information on it on this website.
Some will say the doses I presented are too low, but I've seen people grow off less....

 

[DOGMA]

I would reccomend losing the weight first. You will be much happier with the results plus your overall health will improve dramaticly. I mean even with the gear you still gonna have to diet. Anabolics by themselves dont really have any fat burning properties and Adrogenic's only have slight fat burning properties.

 

[violentmessiah]

Dogma

has a good point...
too much weight and blood pressure is already high (should get yours checked)....add gear into training and you gain mass fast and it can be hard to get used to the rapid increase in blood pressure. Losing the fat will help this. Results will be much more evident as well.

 

[mrsoul]

t3

I would recommend something like
A. 400mg test enanthate/week
B. 200mg test enanthate/week and 400mg/ equipoise/week

Add in T3 if you'd like, there' LOTS of good information on it on this website.
Some will say the doses I presented are too low, but I've seen people grow off less....

what is t3? 400mg/ eq, week, how many shots would i divide that into?

 

[BigBoyJ]

I would recommend something like
A. 400mg test enanthate/week
B. 200mg test enanthate/week and 400mg/ equipoise/week

Add in T3 if you'd like, there' LOTS of good information on it on this website.
Some will say the doses I presented are too low, but I've seen people grow off less....

I agree with these doses. I've been juicing for around 7 years and I still don't go much higher than that. I've been up to 270 lbs at 6 ft. You don't need a lot to grow, don't fall into that myth. Eq is usually 200 mg per ml, so you could just do 2 ml of eq and 1 ml test enanthate all in one shot, once per week.

T3 is a thyroid drug. It pretty much burns off muscle just as readily as fat, so it should only be taken with anabolics, even then, it can make you flat and flabby feeling if you're taking even a little bit too much. I wouldn't recommend it for you at this point. Honestly, I think diet should be your primary focus for a few months before ANYTHING else. Get to know your body naturally first, then when you can't get any further, juice can be an option.

 

[Wana B Big]

there is new drugs on the market that can throw h/c out of youre body for good, but you have to take a shot every week for 6 months or a year,it also makes you a little sick,i no this cos my mate had it and whent through this and got rid of it, now has kids.

 

[mrsoul]

interfuron

yeah. it is called interfuron and is a lot like cancer treatment. will proably have to endure it some day, but i have a son on the way and cannot think about taking off work right now. thanks.