New Drugs on the Horizon?

[KingOfSushi]

But assuming that steroids synthesized half a century ago are as good as it will get is absolutely retarded.

These drugs have stood the test of time for a reason, though. Not to mention BECAUSE of this time we’ve been able to gain much more knowledge on them through research and anecdotes.

So we’ve already established that the study with these new drugs on actual humans was much less impressive, right?

We have research on testosterone showing “muscle gain” with no exercise or diet on what, 500 test or so?

So imagine if you had a study with test, tren, eq, gh, slin. All incredibly anti-catabolic and anabolic. How much is this really going to stand up to PEDs then if studies on untrained people on no diet?

All that said, my mind IS open. I’m just not bursting at the seams and saying this will replace what we are already using is all.

 

[bbxtreme]

All that said, my mind IS open. I’m just not bursting at the seams and saying this will replace what we are already using is all.

This is the only part I have a problem with. But it was for a YT video and social promotion so isn’t even surprising. It worked, we are all talking about it.

And at the end of the day most guys here will end up trying them. Let’s be real. But replacing anything… very doubtful. We’ve been through this with prohormones, peptides, SARMs etc over the years. Just more tools in the toolbox for a bodybuilder.

Objectively I watched the video and he did a good job discussing them IMO. I think everyone is just upset over the title he chose to promote it. It’s social media. Welcome to the game. lol

 

[neutrino]

Why are we so hypocritical?

We revolt against a new PED/weight loss drug because it “makes it easier”… yet we stack 17 other drugs for the exact same reason for growth.

It’s beyond delusional and hypocritical.

The all know that some young dumb 20 something kid can take tren and anavar, grow like a weed, and that’s acceptable.

Can’t grow? Take a drug.
Precontest? Take drug.
Can’t eat? Take a drug.
Injured? Take a drug.
Side effects from drugs? Take more drugs to offset.


We literally have a drug for everything. Guys even inject oil into their arms with the false hope that it’ll somehow “create room for more muscle”.

Suddenly an appetite suppressant is bad?

Make it make sense.

It doesnt make sense until you factor in a chronically persistent inferirority complex that requires constant countermeasures to balance.

 

[qbkilla]

Why are we so hypocritical?

We revolt against a new PED/weight loss drug because it “makes it easier”… yet we stack 17 other drugs for the exact same reason for growth.

It’s beyond delusional and hypocritical.

The all know that some young dumb 20 something kid can take tren and anavar, grow like a weed, and that’s acceptable.

Can’t grow? Take a drug.
Precontest? Take drug.
Can’t eat? Take a drug.
Injured? Take a drug.
Side effects from drugs? Take more drugs to offset.


We literally have a drug for everything. Guys even inject oil into their arms with the false hope that it’ll somehow “create room for more muscle”.

Suddenly an appetite suppressant is bad?

Make it make sense.

I think it's the people who already take 17 drugs hoping for a 1 percent advantage who are interested in them. Guys who use a little aas +gh to support their training /diet couldn't care less about glp.

We usually think in terms of natural vs enhanced..but it's more like 3 categories imo

Naturals
Enhanced
Guys who take anything and everything they can get ahold of

 

[whacked]

what are your guys' thoughts? Im stoked

Sign me the heck up

2028 is a long to wait.

Looking forward to research crap out of China by 2026.

 

[URODA]

Yea so high interval confidence the cope seethe you will yet see come next years will be unfathomable ignorants to continue malding yelling at clouds nothing new under the sun cheers

 

[KingOfSushi]

I think it's the people who already take 17 drugs hoping for a 1 percent advantage who are interested in them. Guys who use a little aas +gh to support their training /diet couldn't care less about glp.

Huh? Where have you been man, GLP1s are being used EVERYWHERE right now, being used by people of ALL levels.

 

[qbkilla]

Huh? Where have you been man, GLP1s are being used EVERYWHERE right now, being used by people of ALL levels.

What do you mean? What percentage of the population is on them? I haven't met anyone in person that admits to taking them and I can't be the only person on this board I assume who can keep lean and doesn't need them?

 

[NEMSZ]

What do you mean? What percentage of the population is on them? I haven't met anyone in person that admits to taking them and I can't be the only person on this board I assume who can keep lean and doesn't need them?

Come to SFL, where EVERYONE from your gym rat, competitors, to soccer moms, to fresh out of high school teens/young adults who were fat all through high school, to even doctors and people at these “wellness/TRT clinics” etc etc..

I know at least a half dozen people on it right now who don’t even workout.. As a matter of fact, I know 2-3 who not only don’t workout, but they don’t even eat healthy food (I can’t comment on the others because I haven’t seen what they eat).. They’re just eating less ice cream, chocolate, chips, cookies, pasta (stuff I’ve literally witnessed them eating) etc.. Fat/Carbs still make up the majority of their macros, despite their being less of it than before because of the obvious appetite suppression, and not a single micro nutrient in sight

I’d imagine there’s A LOT of people doing the same thing because GLP’s might solve an over appetite issue, but not a “unhealthy life habits” issue..

I’d also imagine there will be some serious consequences of such actions that we’ll be hearing about in the coming years as this becomes more popular..

 

[GreatGhandi51]

Yeh def believeable and the 'increlex' facade without the increlex if that makes sense. LOL!

Can def see something like this in the next 10-20 years.

Would be interesting the mr. olympias with this though (as myostat has always been known to be holy grail; viz Flex Wheeler and his myostat deficieny)

 

[iwantmass]

What do you mean? What percentage of the population is on them? I haven't met anyone in person that admits to taking them and I can't be the only person on this board I assume who can keep lean and doesn't need them?

Sometimes I think you just type to type. Everyone is taking those drugs. They have glp ads scrolling on tvs in my gym. Ppl have yard signs advertising glps

 

[3BILLS]

What do you mean? What percentage of the population is on them? I haven't met anyone in person that admits to taking them and I can't be the only person on this board I assume who can keep lean and doesn't need them?

In the last few months more people have told me they are using a glp compared to the amount of people in 15 year that have admitted to using steroids

 

[iwantmass]

In the last few months more people have told me they are using a glp compared to the amount of people in 15 year that have admitted to using steroids

It is amazing that he is often both the most vocal and most ignorant voice on most subject matters, especially those that are taboo/unconventional. He definitely doesn't allow his ignorance get in the way of his opinion

 

[kadafi2]

In the last few months more people have told me they are using a glp compared to the amount of people in 15 year that have admitted to using steroids

I laughed but it's true. And as mentioned above, most of these people don't exercise at all, they just "eat less".

 

[Siggy]

Even if this works out as well as can reasonably be hoped for, I doubt its going to transform fat Larry from down the street into Ryan Terry. You will still need exercise in order to hypertrophy the muscles to the maximum extent, so while Larry will look a hell of a lot better, the guy on the Gene Therapy who actually lifts is still going to look better.

A pill or injection that will turn a fat slob of a normie into Frank Zane without doing any exercise is some Star Trek level shit that is never going to happen.

Now, if we are talking about genetic engineering at the DNA level, then yea it will be possible to churn out humans who look like captain america while eating mcdonalds and watching netflix all day.

 

[finephysique]

Huh? Where have you been man, GLP1s are being used EVERYWHERE right now, being used by people of ALL levels.

I saw or heard a stat recently but can’t remember where that stated 60 million Americans are on glp1s or have previously tried them. Sounds crazy but they are everywhere, salons, gyms mom chat facebook groups and then there are all the legally prescribed ones which are making the pharma companies some crazy money.

 

[iwantmass]

Steroids, hgh, thyroid meds, etc. They are all no different in that they benefit the general public that leads a mostly sedentary lifestyle, but the fitness population will benefit more. I dont think any of us expect a sedentary person to get the benefits of an avid gym person from a therapeutic dosage of test. However, that dose can still have a wealth of other benefits for him. These drugs are no different. Worrying about what others do is setting oneself up for failure. And if you are doing this for others, you are probably doing it wrong

 

[GreatGhandi51]

Even if this works out as well as can reasonably be hoped for, I doubt its going to transform fat Larry from down the street into Ryan Terry. You will still need exercise in order to hypertrophy the muscles to the maximum extent, so while Larry will look a hell of a lot better, the guy on the Gene Therapy who actually lifts is still going to look better.

A pill or injection that will turn a fat slob of a normie into Frank Zane without doing any exercise is some Star Trek level shit that is never going to happen.

Now, if we are talking about genetic engineering at the DNA level, then yea it will be possible to churn out humans who look like captain america while eating mcdonalds and watching netflix all day.

That and 'muscle' maturity etc still has to be built but your standard 'holy gains' from a first Tren cycle etc is foreseeable in the near future on advancements such as the above.

 

[KingOfSushi]

What percentage of the population is on them?

This is not information I have access to lol, but more than AAS for sure

 

[bbxtreme]

@qbkilla

About 12% of Americans have tried a GLP based on polls that have been done. TBH I would argue it’s much higher than that.

A lot of people use GLP’s and don’t want others to know. It’s almost become a shame thing. Trade one issue for the other- shamed if you’re fat or shamed if you use a GLP to not be fat. lol