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So I've been lurking here for a bit. Just some quick stats, 175-176 lb 15% bf at 24 years old natty 5'10, will be training for seven years come March. Been under the wing of someone who got me on the right path. We're both scratching our heads over the progress I've made, with the fact he thinks my training age is really six months and rightfully so. He's chalked it up to genetics, told me no hope unless I'm on gear but I'm not ready to give up just yet. I will be hopping on but I'd like to get close to my natty potential before I hop on because I personally would like to see how far I can push my body before I take the next step to push my body's limits further. I consider myself someone who's been spinning his wheels until I started training under him.

For people who are familiar with Phil's training and diet advice,(so sad to see he has left for a month now), what usually is the problem when somewhere along the line, 1-2 years ago you started getting weaker, and your weights in general would be the laughingstock of the forum and possibly my gym? I know I've injured my right quad, my right shoulder, and my right wrist due to pushing front squat way too hard for reps. Huh, everything was injured on my right side, just saw that pattern now. Weight is going up, but it is hard, and after a year's time or more, I still cannot do the weights I did back then.

I also know I'm eating close to 3000 cals and somehow some way one random day every week I drop right back down to around 175-176, no matter how many days I've eaten 3000 cals and if I happened to be up 2-3 lb. I could be wrong or don't remember correctly, but if you're fat and relatively skinny, excess amounts of calories does not always mean you will gain muscle, and if you are eating 3000 cals and you're small, you're doing it wrong.

I tried to tell myself that after crunching numbers, I've actually only gained 3-4 lb of muscle over my training career, so I still have 12 lb I can tap into before the second year's gains will be cut in half. But let's get real here, if you've training for six years, you've tapped into your newbie gains, end of story, I think. He thinks it comes down to genetics and a possibility that I may not be absorbing protein to build muscle. What say other members of the forum?
 
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So I've been lurking here for a bit. Just some quick stats, 175-176 lb 15% bf at 24 years old natty 5'10, will be training for seven years come March. Been under the wing of someone who got me on the right path. We're both scratching our heads over the progress I've made, with the fact he thinks my training age is really six months and rightfully so. He's chalked it up to genetics, told me no hope unless I'm on gear but I'm not ready to give up just yet. I will be hopping on but I'd like to get close to my natty potential before I hop on because I personally would like to see how far I can push my body before I take the next step to push my body's limits further. I consider myself someone who's been spinning his wheels until I started training under him.

For people who are familiar with Phil's training and diet advice,(so sad to see he has left for a month now), what usually is the problem when somewhere along the line, 1-2 years ago you started getting weaker, and your weights in general would be the laughingstock of the forum and possibly my gym? I know I've injured my right quad, my right shoulder, and my right wrist due to pushing front squat way too hard for reps. Huh, everything was injured on my right side, just saw that pattern now. Weight is going up, but it is hard, and after a year's time or more, I still cannot do the weights I did back then.

I also know I'm eating close to 3000 cals and somehow some way one random day every week I drop right back down to around 175-176, no matter how many days I've eaten 3000 cals and if I happened to be up 2-3 lb. I could be wrong or don't remember correctly, but if you're fat and relatively skinny, excess amounts of calories does not always mean you will gain muscle, and if you are eating 3000 cals and you're small, you're doing it wrong.

I tried to tell myself that after crunching numbers, I've actually only gained 3-4 lb of muscle over my training career, so I still have 12 lb I can tap into before the second year's gains will be cut in half. But let's get real here, if you've training for six years, you've tapped into your newbie gains, end of story, I think. He thinks it comes down to genetics and a possibility that I may not be absorbing protein to build muscle. What say other members of the forum?

Yes genetics, but there are many good bbrs with out good genetics. I would like to help you but, first I would have to see how you train and after that go trough your diet.
 
Yes genetics, but there are many good bbrs with out good genetics. I would like to help you but, first I would have to see how you train and after that go trough your diet.

Did you mean you would like me to post my training routine and diet? Also pretty thankful that someone who trained under Phil's guidance is the first poster and willing to help me.
 
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Pmed you if that was what I was supposed to do. If not, sorry, disregard the PM, I'm sorry to have bothered you.
 
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Welcome, read, read and read some more. The guys on this site are great. Always be kind and respectful.
 
So I've been lurking here for a bit. Just some quick stats, 175-176 lb 15% bf at 24 years old natty 5'10, will be training for seven years come March. Been under the wing of someone who got me on the right path. We're both scratching our heads over the progress I've made, with the fact he thinks my training age is really six months and rightfully so. He's chalked it up to genetics, told me no hope unless I'm on gear but I'm not ready to give up just yet. I will be hopping on but I'd like to get close to my natty potential before I hop on because I personally would like to see how far I can push my body before I take the next step to push my body's limits further. I consider myself someone who's been spinning his wheels until I started training under him.

For people who are familiar with Phil's training and diet advice,(so sad to see he has left for a month now), what usually is the problem when somewhere along the line, 1-2 years ago you started getting weaker, and your weights in general would be the laughingstock of the forum and possibly my gym? I know I've injured my right quad, my right shoulder, and my right wrist due to pushing front squat way too hard for reps. Huh, everything was injured on my right side, just saw that pattern now. Weight is going up, but it is hard, and after a year's time or more, I still cannot do the weights I did back then.

I also know I'm eating close to 3000 cals and somehow some way one random day every week I drop right back down to around 175-176, no matter how many days I've eaten 3000 cals and if I happened to be up 2-3 lb. I could be wrong or don't remember correctly, but if you're fat and relatively skinny, excess amounts of calories does not always mean you will gain muscle, and if you are eating 3000 cals and you're small, you're doing it wrong.

I tried to tell myself that after crunching numbers, I've actually only gained 3-4 lb of muscle over my training career, so I still have 12 lb I can tap into before the second year's gains will be cut in half. But let's get real here, if you've training for six years, you've tapped into your newbie gains, end of story, I think. He thinks it comes down to genetics and a possibility that I may not be absorbing protein to build muscle. What say other members of the forum?

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