New Kigs

[lilhawk1]

Got them.
Mfg. date: 2011.12.15
Batch No: 20111201
Exp. date: 3013.11

Everything is stamped. Box looks a bit different. White shadows like before behind the Kigtropin on the front of the box, but not the top. Not sure about these, the puck on a couple has broken up, which not sure if that means much, but it looks different. The last ones I had were very good, and the puck had a bit of a sparkle to it when held up to the light, these don't. A while ago Kami had said the lab results would be posted on all the boards, but they haven't been. Not sure why. I know the Tais have been tested on some other boards and the results are not good on 10ius. Serum GH is low. Might just give these kigs to someone. Doubt they are good. Sticking with Rips and Thanks from now on. Those are definitely good GH.

 

[Presacanario]

Any pics to compare boxes? Are they vacuum?

 

[lilhawk1]

Taking Rips right now. Want to try these, but don't want to stop Rips as they are very good. The vials are wrapped like the good Kigs were, but the puck just looks different. Also in the lower right corner of the box where it says 10iu in white is also different. The new box it is smaller and farther to the left than the old box of good Kigs. Will decide in next day or two if I will use them. Not good with computers so I will try to post a pic of the 2 boxes if I can figure it out.

 

[mickyquicky]

Well good luck, I am setting on a fridge drawer full of kigs and after reading everything I could get my hands on for a damn month still have not been able to form and opinion as to weather they are good or not. Everybody has somthing different to say lol
Here is the # of the batch I ran.
Mfg. Date: 2011.07.15
Batch No: 20110715
Exp. Date: 2013.06

I am gonna get a serum GH test done for these in about a week. I will post up results.

 

[Presacanario]

Well good luck, I am setting on a fridge drawer full of kigs and after reading everything I could get my hands on for a damn month still have not been able to form and opinion as to weather they are good or not. Everybody has somthing different to say lol
Here is the # of the batch I ran.
Mfg. Date: 2011.07.15
Batch No: 20110715
Exp. Date: 2013.06

I am gonna get a serum GH test done for these in about a week. I will post up results.

I've had kigs for a year. The batch you are referring to is gtg if obtained prior to first week or so of November. Then same exact stamp and number boxes were reissued after fake laser boxes in november/december came out- and the reissue with that batch number had peeling uneven labels and cheap crimps that could be turned by hand. I have 50 kits of that shit, 25 or so kits of bunk lasers, and running below 10 kits of original good batch with that lot and expiration date obtained in October. The originals with those numbers from july-beginning November were some of the best 191 ever available UG in recent history. Theory is they ran dry. Then scammed. Not the reseller but the producer. Now there is a new batch. Verdict is still out as they recently hit the street. I'm steering clear.

 

[Presacanario]

I can photograph all 3 if you like. Side by side. Subtle differences- but remember its what's in the vial not the pretty label or box.

 

[Presacanario]

Bad batch good numbers:

 

[Presacanario]

Good batch same numbers from nov 7th or so and prior:

 

[Presacanario]

Pure shit between the two stamped boxes

 

[Presacanario]

Get these- search board sponsors- they are available.
Eli, thanks, rip (topless) runnin low and all locked and loaded. This is my last powder of rips. And my control.

 

[MisterRut1]

I'll take em. lol

 

[Presacanario]

I really can't blame reseller. They all made it right by Me and My guys. We Have a little purchasing influence- again only for personal. Most these guys have big names. Sellers- They Didn't even want shit back. It's the main producer to blame. Now in eager to see what's in new batch. My hopes are not too high.

 

[Presacanario]

I'll take em. lol

I'll give you the bunk. Not to sell and rip someone off but I'll throw you some bunk vials.

 

[lilhawk1]

Not so sure on elis. Someone on another board got a serum of 5.8 on 10iu. That is poor. Considering Rips are 30 on same dose. Definitely steering clear of Kigs, and K and his whole operation from now on. Should have just stuck with Rips to begin with. Got caught up in the whole Kig craze. Funny thing is I have the same stamped batch that you had with the dates from July like yours, but I got them in early January and they are excellent. My theory is it was my first order with K and he wanted to send good stuff to a new customer the first time so I would return. I think it is odd he won't post the test results on the new kigs like he said he would. He told me the tests were back and the kigs are of excellent quality and he would post results on all boards. My guess is they are bunk as well. Or underdosed. The puck looks totally different than my good batch.

 

[Presacanario]

Not so sure on elis. Someone on another board got a serum of 5.8 on 10iu. That is poor. Considering Rips are 30 on same dose. Definitely steering clear of Kigs, and K and his whole operation from now on. Should have just stuck with Rips to begin with. Got caught up in the whole Kig craze. Funny thing is I have the same stamped batch that you had with the dates from July like yours, but I got them in early January and they are excellent. My theory is it was my first order with K and he wanted to send good stuff to a new customer the first time so I would return. I think it is odd he won't post the test results on the new kigs like he said he would. He told me the tests were back and the kigs are of excellent quality and he would post results on all boards. My guess is they are bunk as well. Or underdosed. The puck looks totally different than my good batch.

Agree with everything except one issue. One should never question Eli's. They are top 3 on anyone's list who knows something about something. Of course only if direct from the man. Eli's rock. His yellow top are as good as IP yellows. 100's of kits. He does me and mu guys no favors on price ether- doesn't care who you are as he treats all who treat him with due respect equally. But Eli's are consistently top notch. Kigs suck ass. Post November that is.

 

[lilhawk1]

That test on the Eli's surprised me as well. That is the first I have heard of them testing low, as I have always heard great things about them. Rips there are no doubts about. Great GH, same with a couple other brands. Not going to even try anything else ever again. No need to.

 

[Presacanario]

That test on the Eli's surprised me as well. That is the first I have heard of them testing low, as I have always heard great things about them. Rips there are no doubts about. Great GH, same with a couple other brands. Not going to even try anything else ever again. No need to.

So many variables and fluctuations/pulsations with measuring blood- so take one test with a grain of salt. Plus how were they stored- shipped, prepared etc etc. I payed zero attention to that post. I don't care who it was who did one test. Shouldn't have even been posted. Because those who know- know. One never knows the politics etc. etc.

 

[bert777]

That test on the Eli's surprised me as well. That is the first I have heard of them testing low, as I have always heard great things about them. Rips there are no doubts about. Great GH, same with a couple other brands. Not going to even try anything else ever again. No need to.

Someone posted a thread with their serum gh levels (less than 7) on eli's here a few weeks ago and it got deleted

 

[lilhawk1]

So many variables and fluctuations/pulsations with measuring blood- so take one test with a grain of salt. Plus how were they stored- shipped, prepared etc etc. I payed zero attention to that post. I don't care who it was who did one test. Shouldn't have even been posted. Because those who know- know. One never knows the politics etc. etc.

This guy knows what he is doing with tests, more so than anyone else. I understand the politics as his post was promptly deleted because it showed a bad result. Someone on another board is having them tested as we speak using the same method he has for every other GH, and they all came back very good. Should be interesting to see what it shows for eli's. Yes they are right from the man as were the ones that tested bad.

 

[lilhawk1]

The results are back on the eli's and they are poor compared to everything else. 12.0 serum GH on 10iu. Thats half of what others were and 1/3 of what Rips were at same dose. Obviously underdosed, maybe that could be why a new formula is coming out?