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Newest podcast with Milos

Milos claims to keep his testosterone levels between 1200 and 1500 always. "Enhanced."

But then ge says they all used to come off completely. Whatever the cycle length, take half that duration after off everything. Which one is it?

There's quite a few other seeming contradictions. I guess I just find little utility in these interviews.
 
Milos claims to keep his testosterone levels between 1200 and 1500 always. "Enhanced."

But then ge says they all used to come off completely. Whatever the cycle length, take half that duration after off everything. Which one is it?

There's quite a few other seeming contradictions. I guess I just find little utility in these interviews.
I think I listen more for entertainment and take the gear talk with a grain of salt per usual.
 
I think I listen more for entertainment and take the gear talk with a grain of salt per usual.
Same. I try to look for general consensuses among training, diet, gear protocols—but 99% of bodybuilders usually lie about past/current cycle dosages so I don’t really place much emphasis on those discussions
 
He has laid it all out in detail several times.

This is for growth periods. Anabolics he's said test around 750-1000, then a second anabolic (nandrolone, or boldenone, or primo, or masteron or tren). He has said he prefers to rotate them, like 750 test the whole time, plus 4-8 weeks of nandrolone, then switch nandrolone to 4-8 weeks of primo, then switch primo to 4-8 weeks something else, etc.

Orals he has said are fun, but the nutrition and timing is more important. But some anavar or dbol or anadrol before training can be beneficial for short periods for lagging body parts.

Gh he has said 0.25mg/kg per week is usually more than enough. So for someone 100kg (220lbs), that's 25mg/wk, or 75iu/wk, which is about 10iu/day.

Pre intra and post workout is a combination of electrolytes, essential amino acids, glutamine, citrulline, arginine, taurine, etc, carbohydrates from dextrose or vitargo or cyclic dextrin or Karbolyn.

Insulin around the workout is based on your glycemic response, the amount of nutrients coming in; not just general 10:1. He has said it can be sometimes as high as 20iu pre and 20iu post.

Nutrition he used to believe keeping protein as high as possible, something like 450g from direct sources. 2g/lb isn't unreasonable to him. Carbs and fats are as needed, depending on what phase of the day it is (fat burning phase, muscle building phase, etc.).

Training is a mix of stimulus for myofibrillar development (high intensity, low volume), and sarcoplasmic expansion (extremely high volume).

These are all general, and obviously will vary from person to person depending on their response, needs, tolerance, etc. His views from 20 years ago or even 10 years ago have changed, as we all understand that growth and progression of mind and concept is just as important as physical and short term goals.
Every single protocol I've seen of Milos's has at least 3 injectables and tren frequently appears in offseason cycles. Luki posted about a client of his using 1000 test, 600 eq, 600 deca, 400 tren e and then 100mg/day anadrol. Jimmy Tonk made a video going over his protocol with Milos and it was 750 test 300 ment 200 tren hex 500 eq and 100mg anadrol/day. Both were doing the 20/20 log thing. He does typically rotate compounds every 6-8 weeks rather than just keeping the offseason cycle stable for a long time and presumably these orals are in and out for 4-8 weeks at a time.

The whole mindlessly giving out 20/20 thing I think is where the error is. Like yeah clearly fast acting periworkout insulin works great, but its so dependent on individual athlete's insulin sensitivity, bodyfat %, fat storage genetics, and the diet itself. I'd personally rather try to get an estimation of insulin sensitivity (maybe using fasting blood glucose or data from a continuous blood glucose monitory, fasted insulin and hba1c on blood work), figure out what diet has the athlete gaining 0.25-0.5% of bodyweight per week in an offseason phase (after any post show filling out/rehydration/replenishment), and then match the insulin dose to that assuming about 40-60% of the athlete's carbs for the day are in the pre and post workout meal (+ the intra shake). The consequences of using too much and giving the athlete too much food are rapid bodyfat accrual and a sharply shortened growing phase. Like there's nothing magic about the training window that makes a body incapable of fat storage around the training window if you've got way more calories than you need to fuel the recovery process because you decided 20ius was a magic number you needed pre and post
 

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