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Next best Anabolic to Trenbolone

Superdrol for me, I don´t feel on top of the world on it (lethargy, back pumps) but I get to avoid the night sweats, metallic aftertaste, irritability and don´t lose any hair whatsoever. I would like to give Turinabol a proper try at some point and see how that compares.
 
How do you really know if your anavar is real though?
The concerns of real/fake anavar are not really an issue anymore. Maybe 10-15 years ago. That said, you can do 1 of 3 things.
1) Pay a few dollars and get access over at anasci.org. This is your best option in my opinion.
2) Get one of the test kits. This won't tell you concentration but it will tell you if you have anavar or not.
3) Trust your source.
 
I was wondering when someone would vote trest. Mike Arnold raves about it.
 
Every thing is essentially dose dependent.. anavar is a great compound for lean tissue gains.. if you take enough of it.. primo is great for building tissue... if you take enough of it.. masteron is very very underrated.. we look at that outdated anabolic/androgenic ratio chart and see a weak compound... but we have to remember that some drugs work in other ways to be effective.. tren for instance is powerful.. but it's not 5 times more powerful than test.. but if you look at the chart that is essentially how it reads..
But back to your question on what after tren.. personally adding deca or npp would bring the most tissue.. it's truly hard to beat a test.. npp.. mast cycle.. but give me a unlimited amount of primo to add to my test and you can keep the rest...

Great post lats !

What you consider “ enough “ for var-primo-mast ?
 
high test and some mast is a great combination, i generally try to put mast in all of my cycles, keep some of the water off and increase free test a bit.

Just curious what's your test/mast ratio on bulk vs cut?

I don't like high test cycles due to bloat and sides, but maybe mast is my answer? Got a shit ton laying around too
 
i typically do about 3 or 4 to 1 test to mast but you can push the mast even higher if you are sensitive to test sides. I personally don't mind some water retention as long as it isn't effecting my workouts so i dont add too much.
 
I like Primo or possibly DHB. I am curious about how DHB would be in a surplus as I've only cut with it and it has been great.
 
Just getting back to this. I'm not on this board nearly as much as I used to be 10 years ago. I feel like Winstrol is really underrated and overlooked, so it's nice to hear that someone else sees the benefit.

Oddly I respond to winstrol also. Actually I think just about any athletic African American i know of responds very well to winstrol for whatever reason???????
 
Is there any health benefit to winstrol inject over oral? I assume not as it is same chemical, but just checking, especially in regards negative lipid impact.
 
I love winstrol too, but im curious if most of you prefer oral or injectable? Ive always done really well with 50 mg/day oral but I was hearing more and more people preferring injectable so I gave some oil based a shot this go around and it's been less than pleasant. May be the guiaicol not too sure but lesson learned for me. Oral from here on out.
Good luck finding injectable winny, stick to oral winny
 
Next to Trenbolone? The only other stetoids in production are methylnortestosterone derivatives, the best being Dimethandrolone. I reckon that top bodybuilders may even supplant Trenbolone with it for bulk. Otherwise, there are always exotic steroids, such as oxa-trenbolone with an oxygen in the skeleton like oxandrolone.
 
Gains are not outstanding on Primo or Mast. Eq probably is best for gains and no bloat.
Ment is the best, but most dont stay lean. I stay fairly lean on it.
Easy to tell if MENT is real...your HR goes up 15 BMP .
And you feel 'good' on it, as opposed to the harshness of Tren. Insomnia on both.
 
Easy to tell if MENT is real...your HR goes up 15 BMP .
And you feel 'good' on it, as opposed to the harshness of Tren. Insomnia on both.

100% facts right here with regards to MENT. first time i ever ran it, i experienced increased heart rate, insomnia, and non-stop rock hard erections(become very annoying actually).
a recent pick up of MENT, and didnt see the same.. who knows.
 

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