Next best Anabolic to Trenbolone

[MGPM123]

Test & mast, sure not the most potent combo but for dry lean gains they work great together and a nice plus you feel great too!

 

[MikeS]

100% facts right here with regards to MENT. first time i ever ran it, i experienced increased heart rate, insomnia, and non-stop rock hard erections(become very annoying actually).
a recent pick up of MENT, and didnt see the same.. who knows.

The first 2 times I did MENT the HR increase was dramatic. A little less now, other sides are a little less as well.
But if you HR does go up at all, its fake.

 

[Andro308]

I have found Masteron to be even better than TREN for me. It gives me more vascularity and strength than TREN. I sleep better and feel pretty good on it. I feel like I am in a good mood all the time. Tren will give faster results but they seem to stop just as fast as they come. Mast gives quality strength and keeps going up little by little the whole cycle. I notice the fat loss on mast just as much on tren.

 

[jaxino]

Gains from aas never stop....

Just give a try to 4w 300 TestE 30mg inj Superdrol ed, you will be amazed front he results... Dry lean insane gains.

Btw if you are looking for dry gains, they will be also very minimal, because it's 90% about the diet and to grow you need to eat.... Hard to be dry rock hard on 800g carbs Ed....

 

[cmryan]

I have found Masteron to be even better than TREN for me. It gives me more vascularity and strength than TREN. I sleep better and feel pretty good on it. I feel like I am in a good mood all the time. Tren will give faster results but they seem to stop just as fast as they come. Mast gives quality strength and keeps going up little by little the whole cycle. I notice the fat loss on mast just as much on tren.

At what doses have you found the effects to be roughly equal? I mean, I jurt have a hard time believing the effects are equal on a mg per mg basis.

 

[Pusher]

As far as dry lean gains what would be the next best injectable to Trenbolone stacked with testosterone?

without a doubt, methyltrienolone (well, oral tren lol)... methyltrienolone will blow anything, any oral, completely out of the water. once you try it, you'll see no use whatsoever for any other oral. i'd take a 1g test/wk with 500mcg (or 750, or 1,000)/day methyltrienolone over 2-4g test + couple grams other stuff any day.

second to that, i'd say anadrol (at 150-250mg/day).

3rd, dianabol (at 75-100mg/day).

... provided test is used and is default "#1"

(test, methyltrienolone, and proviron... with 30mg cialis twice a week will change your life lol)

 

[sbaker1061]

(test, methyltrienolone, and proviron... with 30mg cialis twice a week will change your life lol)

tell me more about this statement--please

 

[FIRE0808]

without a doubt, methyltrienolone (well, oral tren lol)... methyltrienolone will blow anything, any oral, completely out of the water. once you try it, you'll see no use whatsoever for any other oral. i'd take a 1g test/wk with 500mcg (or 750, or 1,000)/day methyltrienolone over 2-4g test + couple grams other stuff any day.


(test, methyltrienolone, and proviron... with 30mg cialis twice a week will change your life lol)

What are the gains like with methyltrienolone?

 

[Pusher]

What are the gains like with methyltrienolone?

strength gains like tren ace x3

similar/same appearance change as tren ace, except my scale weight goes up. with tren ace, even with heavy test use (2+g) and anadrol (150-250/d) doesn't move my scale weight up much, even with 4k+ kcal... with methyltrienolone it feels like you're doing your first cycle again.. like that full, strong "feel like god" confidence/aggression you got the first time running high dose dbol-type 'feeling', along with big BIG jumps in strength (like going from 275 working sets of 3-4 on decline to 365 working sets of 8-10 in maybe 3 workouts). and like i said, lean/hard gains like tren ace except with an increase in size and bodyweight, not just a 'recomp' .... and it's noticeable at just 500mcg/day, although i prefer 1mg/day.

from the time i first ran it, i'm hard pressed to justify even using any other orals. 1-2g's of test and 1mg/day methyltrienolone and you're good... to me it's more effective than running that same dose test along with 100mg NPP/day, 200mg drol/day, and 75mg dbol/day (combined), or more effective (and more pleasant, tren cough, tren insomnia, and tren night sweats are brutal... the cough esp when you 150mg/ml shots of REAL stuff... i make all my own shit) than running test/tren ace/drol in high doses (like 100/day tren and 200/day drol).

 

[Pusher]

tell me more about this statement--please

test and proviron increase my mood, increase my well-being, increase my sex-drive (which increases my well being... gf's fucken hot, like rap-video hot, so....), and cialis will have you sporting random hard-ons like you're 15 sitting in sophomore Biology class again, and 110% hard-on's when it's time to actually get to work.... and the methyltrienolone is possibly (i believe) the strongest, most androgenic steroid available (possibly most anabolic as well.. 1mg/day blows 150mg tren ace/day away, without the 'bad' sides), so you're big, full, 'pumped', and strong all day and have the confidence of the President of the United States, and sex drive you had at 17/18.

*you DO have to be aware of temper problems the first 3-4days using MTB though, and be mindful that punching holes in walls and road-rage and such will put you in jail and you'll just be a big, jacked dude in jail (and sporting random middle of the day errections for the first week you're there from the remaining cialis in your system... not such a good thing in jail) eating room temp, soggy Ramen out of the package with a spork.... remember to walk away. lol

 

[Ranchhand]

Anabolic / Androgenic Ratio Chart

Metribolone(methyltrienolone) Anabolic = 6,000 - 7,000 / Androgenic = 12,000 - 30,000

(keep mind the anabolic to androgenic ratio for standard Testosterone is 100 / 100)

 

[URODA]

Charts like that one aren't really reliable or halotestin would have already made me weigh more than a belgian blue bull but in reality you would rarely fit it into a bulker

 

[cmryan]

Charts like that one aren't really reliable or halotestin would have already made me weigh more than a belgian blue bull but in reality you would rarely fit it into a bulker

Yeah. Some of them can kind of point us in the right direction, but many of those figures just aren’t born out in humans. Also, the androgenic figure only measured prostate growth and did not even attempt to quantify how androgenic a drug was in other tissues.

 

[b_cornelius]

And we know all the fallicies about those simple anabolic ratio determinations, yet so-called scientists continue rely on this for their latest tests like a bunch of simpletons. Most of this research is obviously pertaining to the latest non-steroidal androgens. Let's face it. We may eventually get a wonderdrug anabolic from those SARMs, but we'd never know from the narrow testing performed on them. I'm still waiting to hear the tissue specific activities on RAD.

 

[Brock456]

DHB 500-700 with an oral. I like Dbol. And a short Ester test! Tren Ace works so fast and strong hard to say anything is comparable.

What kind of results from DHB?

 

[Pusher]

Charts like that one aren't really reliable or halotestin would have already made me weigh more than a belgian blue bull but in reality you would rarely fit it into a bulker

very true, however, methyltrienolone is for sure everything it's cracked up to be lol. it's like Tren Ace x3, minus the mental negative's. hell, it actually improves my sleep IMO/IME. i actually sleep-sleep, and have interesting dreams. i DO worry about long-term use though, with regards to liver and prostate, because ive had a doctor scold me on anabolic use when in the hospital for a few days for something else, he knew i was a steroid user (asked my then-fiance, a med-student former classmate of hers what i was using). said my liver was significantly enlarged ("hepatitis.. meaning your liver is inflamed" didn't mention hep-c/a/b, just 'inflamed' from somthing), and at the time i was running maybe 1mg/day plus about 2g test and some other stuff, and didn't drink anything at that time.

 

[URODA]

very true, however, methyltrienolone is for sure everything it's cracked up to be lol. it's like Tren Ace x3, minus the mental negative's. hell, it actually improves my sleep IMO/IME. i actually sleep-sleep, and have interesting dreams. i DO worry about long-term use though, with regards to liver and prostate, because ive had a doctor scold me on anabolic use when in the hospital for a few days for something else, he knew i was a steroid user (asked my then-fiance, a med-student former classmate of hers what i was using). said my liver was significantly enlarged ("hepatitis.. meaning your liver is inflamed" didn't mention hep-c/a/b, just 'inflamed' from somthing), and at the time i was running maybe 1mg/day plus about 2g test and some other stuff, and didn't drink anything at that time.

No doubt it may be that good, I mean I am inclined to believe the high androgen rating of halo knowing how alert and aggressive it made me but I definitely put limited value on any chart against own experience. Interesting to hear your experience on methyltrienolone I have only and always heard it is harsh on basically everything.

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

very true, however, methyltrienolone is for sure everything it's cracked up to be lol. it's like Tren Ace x3, minus the mental negative's. hell, it actually improves my sleep IMO/IME. i actually sleep-sleep, and have interesting dreams. i DO worry about long-term use though, with regards to liver and prostate, because ive had a doctor scold me on anabolic use when in the hospital for a few days for something else, he knew i was a steroid user (asked my then-fiance, a med-student former classmate of hers what i was using). said my liver was significantly enlarged ("hepatitis.. meaning your liver is inflamed" didn't mention hep-c/a/b, just 'inflamed' from somthing), and at the time i was running maybe 1mg/day plus about 2g test and some other stuff, and didn't drink anything at that time.

methyltrienolone is one of the most liver toxic orals out there. If not the most.

 

[Bleed]

Mike Arnold ran 4-5 mg for a few weeks if we're talking the same compound. Check out his thread.

Mike Arnold High Dose m-tren Review

 

[b_cornelius]

1mg Methyltrienolone every 8 hours, that's 1mg/trid, 3mg/d. They used to say that Mtren was the most liver toxic, then we figuratively had Superdrol bubbling out of candy machines. Now we know better.